Cowboy Boots

[BobHufford]

Ha..you forgot..drunk!
B

My wife says he went to school with my oldest daughter. Sorry folks...

This might explain why I don't see cowboy boots in flea markets as much as I used to.

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Greetings All:
Thanks all for the likes.
Today it’s another Teju Lizard only by Lama. No idea how old.
Be well. Bowen

 

[Bamaboots]

Greetings All:
Thanks all for the likes.
Today it’s another Teju Lizard only by Lama. No idea how old.
Be well. Bowen

Nice, Bowen. With that label, no later than the 80's. I've got a pair of el Rey's with the same stitch pattern and they date from around 84.

 

[belfastboy]

View attachment 110779 View attachment 110780 View attachment 110781 Greetings All:
Thanks all for the likes.
Today it’s another Teju Lizard only by Lama. No idea how old.
Be well. Bowen

I think the Teju makes the nicest, most understated exotic hide for boots. Love em.

 

[dh66]

DAMN!

http://redneckbootsandals.com/

WTF??

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[dh66]

Embarrassing on so many levels. Former law enforcement officer. Came up with the idea on an Alabama beach. Company is in Springfield, MO.

I've come up with a few ideas on an Alabama beach myself. Now I'm trying figure out how to get ' em through college.

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[Bamaboots]

I've come up with a few ideas on an Alabama beach myself. Now I'm trying figure out how to get ' em through college.

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LMAO! Just steer them towards UA.

 

[Retro Grouch]

Some beautiful boots in this thread.

I wore western boots almost exclusively until my early twenties. Acme, Tony Lama, Nacona... Sadly, I would wear a pair out in about six months. Holes in the sole and cracks in the sides. Plus where I live now has a narrow window for smooth leather soles. But now I'm getting back into them.

My Grandfather was a rancher in west TX and had all his boots made by M.L. Leddy's.

Here are my plain Janes.

Justin peewees(?)

Dickies steel toes

 

[Cornshucker77]

DAMN!

http://redneckbootsandals.com/

Now I have seen everything!

 

[1mach1]

I've come up with a few ideas on an Alabama beach myself. Now I'm trying figure out how to get ' em through college.

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Well if you have any grand ideas on that front, shoot them my way. [emoji14]

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[BobHufford]

If you "inherit" boots that don’t fit are you now a “collector”? Justin Anteater (if I’m not mistaken).

Heard back from Nancie at Justin's Archive Department. I sent her pics and listed the numbers (The Style and Model were both the same - D4640).

She said the style number D4640 indicates these boots are a make-up, and were not in the stock line. The duplication of the Style Number and Case Number matched with a work-order for Peanut Brittle Teju Lizard (with a London Tan Cowhide upper) from September 1980. Since these are obviously not them she thinks the number was reused, which was not uncommon. Also, they only show that Anteater was used in '82 and '83 based on a spreadsheet of leathers used from 1971 to 2007.

Based on this lack of internal information, the white cloth label, the style of the stitching and short collar she felt that these are most likely from the late 1960s.

She also said that she did not believe regular Anteater is endangered, but the Giant Anteater, Pangolin and some other species of Anteater is (so I think I'm safe to sell them).

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Heard back from Nancie at Justin's Archive Department. I sent her pics and listed the numbers (The Style and Model were both the same - D4640).

She said the style number D4640 indicates these boots are a make-up, and were not in the stock line. The duplication of the Style Number and Case Number matched with a work-order for Peanut Brittle Teju Lizard (with a London Tan Cowhide upper) from September 1980. Since these are obviously not them she thinks the number was reused, which was not uncommon. Also, they only show that Anteater was used in '82 and '83 based on a spreadsheet of leathers used from 1971 to 2007.

Based on this lack of internal information, the white cloth label, the style of the stitching and short collar she felt that these are most likely from the late 1960s.

She also said that she did not believe regular Anteater is endangered, but the Giant Anteater, Pangolin and some other species of Anteater is (so I think I'm safe to sell them).

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Bob, I can't tell from your pics but I wouldn't bet that these are real anteater. On real anteater the membrane between scales swells up giving the scale a sunken appearance. Most stamped faux anteater turn out just the opposite. Maybe you can tell for sure, I can't from the pics.

 

[Yahoody]

BREAKTIME at the Crown W Ranch, 1906. Near Knowlton, east of Miles City MT.

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[AbbaDatDeHat]

BREAKTIME at the Crown W Ranch, 1906. Near Knowlton, east of Miles City MT.

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Cool. Wonder what the “Bystander” was? B

 

[BobHufford]

Bob, I can't tell from your pics but I wouldn't bet that these are real anteater. On real anteater the membrane between scales swells up giving the scale a sunken appearance. Most stamped faux anteater turn out just the opposite. Maybe you can tell for sure, I can't from the pics.

Thanks Jack. The membrane is higher than the scales (even curling up in spots). Not sure if this larger photo helps. If not I can post again this evening.

 

[Bamaboots]

She also said that she did not believe regular Anteater is endangered, but the Giant Anteater, Pangolin and some other species of Anteater is (so I think I'm safe to sell them).

Bob, all 8 species of Pangolin anteaters were reclassified to Appendix I in CITES in 2016 which places them in the same class as sea turtle. Whether that means the leathers or hides are in the same classification, I don't know or care. I have no dog or anteater in this hunt. I just enjoy the discussion. Nothing I've ever considered until it came up here.

After you first posted these, I have done some eBay searches for anteater boots and have seen them come and go with bids being placed and no sales consummated. I found that interesting.

 

[Yahoody]

Cool. Wonder what the “Bystander” was? B

"Butte Bystander" The must read newspaper of the day in Montana

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=E2dP09oujfMC&hl=en

 

[BobHufford]

After you first posted these, I have done some eBay searches for anteater boots and have seen them come and go with bids being placed and no sales consummated. I found that interesting.

I find it disconcerting ... now I don't know what to do.

I do see some "sales" on eBay. Not sure if this means it is OK.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_od...rint.TRS0&_nkw=anteater+boots+-print&_sacat=0

You'd think CITES would make it easier to determine this. I understand I can't buy or sell a Pangolin taken in the wild, but does that ban apply to vintage hides?

 

[Retro Grouch]

Ok. Lots of excellent examples of western boots!

How about some detail? After the toe, what is looked at? The heel. My heel definition has changed over the years.

Straight back heel is a roper heel. The shortest of heels. I have a pair but not in my early repetoire.

Next is the walking heel. 95% of what I have owned fall into this category.

The stockman or bull dogging heel is next. The buckaroo heel kind of fits in here as a "fashion" heel. Personally, I can't walk on those heels as there is too much side to side movement.

Source for pics and some definitions is here.
https://cowboybootshub.com/cowboy-boots-guide/

Lots inbetween but theses are the three main staples.

 

[Stringmaster]

Ok. Lots of excellent examples of western boots!

How about some detail? After the toe, what is looked at? The heel. My heel definition has changed over the years.

Straight back heel is a roper heel. The shortest of heels. I have a pair but not in my early repetoire.

Next is the walking heel. 95% of what I have owned fall into this category.

The stockman or bull dogging heel is next. The buckaroo heel kind of fits in here as a "fashion" heel. Personally, I can't walk on those heels as there is too much side to side movement.

Source for pics and some definitions is here.
https://cowboybootshub.com/cowboy-boots-guide/

Lots inbetween but theses are the three main staples.

I don't know if it's a regional thing but the "walking" heel as I know it is much lower than that pictured--maybe an 1 1/4" - 1 1/2" max, just slightly underslung. A "riding" or "dogging" heel would be the higher heel that is more underslung--somewhere around 2"ish, very underslung. I don't see the last boot as so much of a fashion boot as it looks to be built pretty sturdy for using/riding. I think these terms are mostly obsolete these days as there are many variations, where as it was mostly either a walking or dogging/riding heel back when. I've also seen boots like the 2nd one described as a "combination" heel--the most common perhaps--somewhere around 1 5/8" and moderately underslung i.e. a "combination" of a walking and riding heel.