combat jacket query

[After the Fox]

Hi From London U.K
I bought a combat jacket donkey's years ago, I thought it was an M41, it's in OD cotton twill/gaberdine with dark brown wool lining, but then realised it didn't have epaulettes and I can't see any evidence of ever being any. So then I thought it was maybe a navy N4 version that didn't have epaulettes, but it doesn't look like that either, no USN on breast and it has buckle cinches at waist and sleeves. It has a tabbed button closure for collar. Just been looking around i/net but can't see anything resembling it , not an M38 or navy A-2 , seems to be a mix of all of 'em. hopefully it's obvious to you guys...

 

[1930artdeco]

I am trying to remember where I have seen it before. I think it is a tanker jacket. Or private purchase?

Mike

 

[EngProf]

No - definitely not a tanker jacket (winter combat jacket). Among other differences, tanker jackets have ribbed knit cuffs and bottom.
The closest thing I can see to that one is the M1941 arctic jacket. However, they were long and came down below your bottom to keep you warm.
I think it's a foreign version of a US pattern.
As an example, Norway made an almost dead-on copy of the M1943 jacket.

 

[After the Fox]

Thanks so much for that , I'm sure the UK would not have made anything like this, we had our own battledress, so if anyone has any other ideas I'd be much obliged
Cheers

 

[p51]

It's the acrtic jacket, all right.
Look at:

• the lining, it's much heavier and a different color than M41's one.
• The tape gathers at the bottom edge on each side and the cuffs. That's how you tell it from a M41. An M41 has button adjustments in both of those places.

The stitching underneath the color is correct for the Arctic jacket as well...

 

[After the Fox]

It's the acrtic jacket, all right.
Look at:

• the lining, it's much heavier and a different color than M41's one.
• The tape gathers at the bottom edge on each side and the cuffs. That's how you tell it from a M41. An M41 has button adjustments in both of those places.

The stitching underneath the color is correct for the Arctic jacket as well...

excellent, thanks so much for that, I found a site showing differences between an original and a repro and it matches up completely, apart from epaulets, length and zip, so took a much closer look and can just see where the 4 stitch holes were for epaulet button on 1 side. Stitching looks wrong at bottom, so now assume it was cut off to look like an ordinary M41 or just more comfortable to wear. That original had a silver Talon zip, mine has a brass Conmar but guess whatever was available at time were used ?
Thanks again

It's the acrtic jacket, all right.
Look at:

• the lining, it's much heavier and a different color than M41's one.
• The tape gathers at the bottom edge on each side and the cuffs. That's how you tell it from a M41. An M41 has button adjustments in both of those places.

The stitching underneath the color is correct for the Arctic jacket as well...