Cattlemans crease

[Bob Roberts]

Tried the cattleman's crease on my Akubra Camp Draft. No luck. From the sides it look really nice. From the front it looked like a dented Campbell's Soup can...

 

[Thundercolt]

I'm with everybody else on this, too. I like creases to show signs of the hand that made them. I recently got a Stetson 100 which was creased in what I would call a semi-cattleman's or semi-Alpine if you travel in certain circles. It combines part of a full cattleman's and part of a center dent/front pinch. The center dent widens toward the back of the hat, and the front pinch is centered about 1/3 of the way back from the front of the crown, leaving a wide pinch.

Here are some shots of three hats with variations on the theme. Clockwise from top left, early to mid-'50s Resistol OR-style, mid-'50s Stetson 100, late '40s-early '50s Resistol 10. I've reshaped the Resistol OR several times and it varies between wearings from a full and somewhat symmetrical cattleman's to the combination crease I'm talking about. It can be dry-creased easily. The 100 was hand-creased at some point and it's not symmetrical either. After several creases I wound up giving the Resistol 10 the modified cattleman's, too.

Here is a shot of the top of the Resistol 10 showing the modified cattleman's, and a head shot.

Great modification of the classic Cattleman's crease, it looks good on you!

 

[Bob Roberts]

I tweak all my hats especially factory creased cattleman hats. They look too sterile in that pressed-in state.
Mostly, I tighten the front pinch a bit & maybe raise the back some, more like the arena crease.
I have westerns in Montana slope (aka Gus), tycoon, cutter, arena, & adjusted alpine/cattleman.
To me, a hand-done cattleman looks so much better than the pristine presssed-in factory ones.

Montana Slope in Resistol Stagecoach...

Diamond in Resistol for Calvary slouch look...

Hand-done Cattleman...

I'm gonna, try that "Montana Slope" on a new Fed IV first, b4 the Indy bash.

 

[gtdean48]

I'm gonna, try that "Montana Slope" on a new Fed IV first, b4 the Indy bash.

This is a similar crease I have in my Pecan CRM custom...

 

[alanfgag]

A Stetson 100 that I owned a while back.

 

[Bob Roberts]

I really do like that Montana Slope. Maybe just a little softer version for the Fed. There will b alot of open crown height to work with and very little crown taper so I think it will work and be just something a little diff from the usual Indy.

 

[javadave61]

I really do like that Montana Slope. Maybe just a little softer version for the Fed. There will b alot of open crown height to work with and very little crown taper so I think it will work and be just something a little diff from the usual Indy.

I'd love to see what a Fed IV looks like with that crease. You'll have to show us!

 

[RJR]

+1.

 

[tommyK]

My attempt at g.durand's modified cattleman on Akubra Camp Draft and Bushman. Looking at these now I think I'm going to adjust the Bushman, it's too far forward. The Silverbelly Camp Draft I'm happy with.

p.s. On an unrelated subject somebody, I think it was gtdean48 mentioned doing some additional pouncing or sanding on Akubra's as they are roughly finished. Good advice, they feel so much better in hand now.

 

[Bob Roberts]

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My attempt at g.durand's modified cattleman on Akubra Camp Draft and Bushman. Looking at these now I think I'm going to adjust the Bushman, it's too far forward. The Silverbelly Camp Draft I'm happy with.

p.s. On an unrelated subject somebody, I think it was gtdean48 mentioned doing some additional pouncing or sanding on Akubra's as they are roughly finished. Good advice, they feel so much better in hand now.

With all due respect... really LIKE it on the Bushman. ALOT! Maybe just a little MORE of all u got goin on? A little longer pinch, sharper and deeper all around.

 

[Bob Roberts]

I'd love to see what a Fed IV looks like with that crease. You'll have to show us!

You'll get your PM pic on FB. You can go "public" on the Lounge if you'd like. No release required. Lol.

 

[Bob Roberts]

+1.

See Dave abt that...

 

[kaosharper1]

This is a similar crease I have in my Pecan CRM custom...

That's the crease I have on the VS hat in my avatar. I think it's very versatile. I based it on a picture I saw from the 1920s.

 

[g.durand]

A Stetson 100 that I owned a while back.

Very sharp, Alan.

 

[JoeyC]

A Stetson 100 that I owned a while back.

Alan, did you outbid me for that hat on ebay a few years ago?

 

[JoeyC]

With all due respect... really LIKE it on the Bushman. ALOT! Maybe just a little MORE of all u got goin on? A little longer pinch, sharper and deeper all around.

They both look good but I favor the Campdraft, to me it's more of what a modified cattleman crease should look like, just my opinion though.

 

[tommyK]

Thanks guys, I think I'm going to live with them for a while as is. I'll revisit them in a month or two with "fresh eyes" and maybe make adjustments then.

 

[Bob Roberts]

They both look good but I favor the Campdraft, to me it's more of what a modified cattleman crease should look like, just my opinion though.

I did want to do that on my CD. No luck though.

 

[Bob Roberts]

Thanks guys, I think I'm going to live with them for a while as is. I'll revisit them in a month or two with "fresh eyes" and maybe make adjustments then.

Wlcm TK.

 

[Sanford Goldstein]

Ok so I like the cattleman crease yes however I have a question... what is the difference between cattleman 65 and the cattleman crease I have both in my collection as my tag on my hats show

I don’t like however how after awhile my creases get further pinched together through the years... I will load what I mean

Image 1. What it looks like now
Images 2. What it use to look like... not pinched
Image 3. What the other side looks like compared to how it use to look

Is there a way to get it to stay the same with at fuller crease? Or will it just convert back to the thin pinched crease?
Btw that’s a lot of cat hair