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Caps and gowns and flip flops

Tomasso

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Who can forget the women of Northwestern.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/18/national/main709848.shtml
 

Marc Chevalier

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Miss_Bella_Hell said:
First, it does NOT eliminate label snobbery. Have you never seen a uniformed 12 year old girl with Prada Sport shoes on?

I didn't explain myself well enough. In Chile, you have to wear a specific type of black leather lace-up shoe with your school uniform. There are designated shoemakers that manufacture it. Believe me, none of them are Prada.



Viola said:
How is it more economical? My parents didn't buy me new button down shirts or pants/skirts or dress shoes every year.

Who cares about what-to-wear-everyday hassle? I don't get that. Either you enjoy the picking out an outfit, or you throw your chosen neutral pants at whatever shirt's clean, right?

It doesn't eliminate competition among any uniform-clad girls I've ever known. It just becomes what hair things, what jewelry, what phone, what shoes you have. I guess it might stymie boys though, I don't know. But I suspect not, I've known a lot of boy shoe-snobs under the age of 17, and many jewelry guys as well.

It's more economical because there are fewer clothes you need to buy, and the styles don't change.


Mothers who have to dress multiple kids for school each day appreciate the lack of "what to wear" hassle.


In Chile, girls and boys are not allowed to wear flashy jewelry, flashy makeup and fancy/odd hairdos in school.




PHOTO of Chilean schoolkids here:

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Photo of PRINCE CHARLES with Chilean schoolkids:

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And here:

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celtic

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i wore a school uniform for my first 6 years of school and hated it.

i realized later how EASY it was, but i hated the fact that it was imposed on us. and was so booooring.


perhaps schools can propose uniforms consisting of flip flops, backwards baseball caps and oversized or undersized jeans so that the children wish to rebel and wear three-piece suites!


p.s. i wore jeans, cowboy boots with studs and chains, circle (lennon-type) shades and a full beard to my HS graduation... luckily my robe covered most of it... :p
 

Paisley

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Marc Chevalier said:
I didn't explain myself well enough. In Chile, you have to wear a specific type of black leather lace-up shoe with your school uniform. There are designated shoemakers that manufacture it. Believe me, none of them are Prada.

It's more economical because there are fewer clothes you need to buy, and the styles don't change.

Mothers who have to dress multiple kids for school each day appreciate the lack of "what to wear" hassle.

In Chile, girls and boys are not allowed to wear flashy jewelry, flashy makeup and fancy/odd hairdos in school.

I never wore a uniform to school, but I wear a uniform, in a manner of speaking, to work. What you are saying is true for me, too. Although I have a small wardrobe, I never find I have nothing to wear. My hairstyle and makeup (see avatar) take 30 minutes to put together. And I leave shoe competitions to the partners.

BTW, my junior high and high school uniform was jeans, t-shirt and tennis shoes. Not expensive, and nothing hard about that, either.
 

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I don't remember ever being really conscious that clothing even *had* brand names when I was in school -- the only label you ever saw in public was the ankle patch on some kid's sneakers, but even that didn't carry any kind of cachet: most everybody I knew bought their clothes at Sears, Grants, or a local store called Epstein's, and nobody ever went around with tags hanging off. In that kind of environment, uniforms would have been rather pointless.

I do remember one girl in high school, a new gal from out of state, who came in one day bragging about her "London Fog Raincoat." She didn't impress any of us, though, because none of us had ever heard of such a thing. A raincoat was a raincoat.

It all changed pretty rapidly, though. When my sister was in high school, in the mid-'80s, suddenly generic dungarees from Epstein's weren't good enough for her -- the Jordache commercials started showing up on TV, and suddenly every kid was brand-obsessed. She raked blueberries a whole summer to earn the money to outfit herself in the latest brand-name stuff, only to find that, by fall, the trends had all moved on and she was being razzed for being out of date.
 

Paisley

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LizzieMaine said:
I don't remember ever being really conscious that clothing even *had* brand names when I was in school -- the only label you ever saw in public was the ankle patch on some kid's sneakers, but even that didn't carry any kind of cachet: most everybody I knew bought their clothes at Sears, Grants, or a local store called Epstein's, and nobody ever went around with tags hanging off. In that kind of environment, uniforms would have been rather pointless.

That's how I see school uniforms. Unless parents, teachers and students are at loggerheads over clothes, or buying the "right clothes" presents a hardship for families, or the kids are wearing rags, I don't see a need for official uniforms. A dress code, yes.
 

Foofoogal

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so that the children wish to rebel and wear three-piece suites!
lol that is funny.

LizzieMaine. It was the mid 1980s. Jordache and Liz Claiborne I think started it. Our son was in about 7th. grade then. We refused to put out $80.00 for some tennis shoes. So my son helped roof a house. He bought the shoes and was so proud. About a week later someone stole them. :p
 

Paisley

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Funny thing is, at the suburban middle-class high school I attended (Columbine, which some referred to as a "rich snob school"), I don't remember anyone wearing Jordache or any other designer jeans. I never heard of Liz Claiborne until my 20s. It was Levi's from the surplus store and Nike tennis shoes. Most of my wardrobe, which was pretty much like everyone else's wardrobe, came from Sears and K-Mart.
 

HadleyH

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A bit off topic..

For me it was School = Uniform
I always wore uniform, i can't remember one day that i went to school without uniform.[huh]
My favorite was the one i wore in primary school, it was a light gray pinafore with dark red tie and a dark red jumper, also a thin red belt! :D
 

JJWord

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My graduating class was 450+ students. Due to the size of the class, plus family in attendance, the only venue large enough was an outdoor ampitheater...in June. Handing out the diplomas alone took close to an hour, plus speakers, class gifts, video montages, etc.

Under my gown I had shorts, t-shirt, a backpack full of snacks, and a fire extinguisher. Halfway through the ordeal I was handing snacks out to classmates around me.
 

LaMedicine

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JJWord said:
...Halfway through the ordeal I was handing snacks out to classmates around me.
Couldn't anyone last a couple of hours without any snacks? If it was excruciatingly hot and everyone was in danger of dehydration, I would understand bottled water. Snacking during a ceremony to honor you, no.
A commencement ceremony is to honor the graduating student's achievement after all, both individually and collectively, and so a very special moment. Hmm (insert deep in thought smilely here)....so I do suppose it is up to the honorees to make the best or the worst of it, manner-wise and otherwise.
 

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LaMedicine said:
A commencement ceremony is to honor the graduating student's achievement after all, both individually and collectively, and so a very special moment. Hmm (insert deep in thought smilely here)....so I do suppose it is up to the honorees to make the best or the worst of it, manner-wise and otherwise.

I agree. It should have been a crowning moment for all of us, ALL 450+ of us, but I had a strong feeling it wouldn't be and it wasn't. Our senior year a new principal took over after the glorious tenure of the prior principal, and the new administration was hellbent on changing things. One of the worst things was we had a classmate die in a car accident that year, and one of her closest friends wanted to collect the diploma on her behalf (the family approved), the new principal tried to stop it stating something to the effect of, "Well we don't know if she really would have graduated."

Also, we were told the class had no money left and hence we had a lackluster senior class trip. At commencement "our class" presented our class advisor a trip to Hawaii, we also gave a big screen projection TV to some other teacher, and an AKC registered pure-bred puppy to another teacher. The parade of gifts went on but I can't remember specifics beyond those three. We were stunned, some of us audibly, so I started handing our snacks considering it felt like we were watching some kind of scripted gameshow.
 

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HadleyH said:
A bit off topic..

For me it was School = Uniform
I always wore uniform, i can't remember one day that i went to school without uniform.[huh]
My favorite was the one i wore in primary school, it was a light gray pinafore with dark red tie and a dark red jumper, also a thin red belt! :D

Totally :eek:fftopic: - but do you have pictures :D :whistling :whistling
 

Spiffy

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Love love love those polyester gowns. All of the North Carolina graduations I've attended have either been in the boiling, blistering May sunshine, or trapped in a steamy gymnasium crowded with 500 students and their parents, everyone all rain-drenched and sweaty.

I found out that if you're graduating, you should wear as little as possible under your gown, then dress shoes. This is easier, admittedly, if you are a girl.
 

Paisley

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LaMedicine said:
Couldn't anyone last a couple of hours without any snacks? If it was excruciatingly hot and everyone was in danger of dehydration, I would understand bottled water. Snacking during a ceremony to honor you, no.
A commencement ceremony is to honor the graduating student's achievement after all, both individually and collectively, and so a very special moment. Hmm (insert deep in thought smilely here)....so I do suppose it is up to the honorees to make the best or the worst of it, manner-wise and otherwise.

:eusa_clap

When my classmates were graduating, I was in basic military training school. Need I say that I wasn't munching on snacks during parades and other ceremonies?
 

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