Canard Lines

[greatestescaper]

I am researching my family's emigration to New York from Ireland in the late 1800's. My great great grandfather arrived in New York in 1880. I have found a great deal about him including many of his known jobs. One of these jobs listed was that he worked for four years at "Canard Lines." However, I have no idea the specifics of Canard Lines nor can I find any. I was wondering if anyone here might be able to shed some light on the subject. Thank you very much.

 

[Dinerman]

It couldn't just be a misspelling of Cunard lines, could it?

 

[Dixon Cannon]

No doubt it is actually Cunard Lines, a historic cruise ship line since 1840.

Based in Liverpool, England - on the Pierhead Cunard Building. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunard_Line

Lots and lots of Irish worked (work) for Cunard.

-dixon cannon

 

[LizzieMaine]

Didn't Canard Lines run a fleet of duck boats?

 

[Shangas]

Correction, Dixon Cannon.

The Cunard Line was a company specialising in the operation of OCEAN LINERS. Cruise-ships didn't exist back in the 1880s.

The Cunard Line is one of the few ocean-liner companies still operating today. It nearly folded in the 1930s because of the Depression, but it struggled through it and it survives to ths day, providing first-class ocean-going transport.

 

[Viola]

I clicked on this thinking it would be about liars. Great Canard Lines of WWII, the Nazi propaganda edition!

 

[Dixon Cannon]

Correction, Dixon Cannon.

The Cunard Line was a company specialising in the operation of OCEAN LINERS. Cruise-ships didn't exist back in the 1880s.

The Cunard Line is one of the few ocean-liner companies still operating today. It nearly folded in the 1930s because of the Depression, but it struggled through it and it survives to ths day, providing first-class ocean-going transport.

Right you are Shangas! Using the modern vernacular in error. I'll call them Passenger Liners. Oddly enough Cunard is now owned by Carnival which is a Cruise Line. How the world turns!!

-dixon cannon

 

[Dixon Cannon]

This is the Liverpool, Pierhead on the Mersey River. The Cunard Building is the center structure.

-dixon cannon

 

[greatestescaper]

Thanks all for the responses. I was wondering if in fact it was a misspelling of Cunard Lines. I am trying to decipher notes written by my uncle, although that one set of notes specifically spells it Canard, which is why I was thrown off. Unfortunately being myself of only 20 years of age I do not have any personal memories of the turn of the century and as such have to rely on such terrible notes.

 

[Shangas]

Post the letters or postcards or whatever else it is, up here. Maybe someone can read it and type up a translation? I know some old handwriting can be tricky to read.

And you're welcome, Dixon Cannon.

The difference is that Cruise Ships do short trips, hopping from stop to stop. Ocean-liners were designed for long-haul voyages that went halfway around the world.

 

[Stearmen]

Cruise Ship

My dad got an all expense paid cruise on the Cunard lines Queen Mary. Unfortunately it was late 1943 and there were over 10,000 other passengers, and no shuffle board!

 

[Warbaby]

Didn't Canard Lines run a fleet of duck boats?

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 

[dhermann1]

There's a Cunard Building in New York, too. It's at almost the very southern tip of Mantattan, near Battery Park. It has a fabulous lobby, decorated with wonderful ship images, whiich is now, sadly, a rather dreary post office.

 

[Mike in Seattle]

Didn't Canard Lines run a fleet of duck boats?

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap That one just quacked me up!

 

[greatestescaper]

For those interested this is the short story of my great great grandfather:

John O’ Halloran was born in the year 1863 to Martin O’ Halloran and Kate Foley of County Clare, Ireland. John was raised along with two sisters and a brother Patrick, who was born in 1875. Because of the devastation wreaked by the Potato Famine John, aged 17 years, left his family and set sail for America. The year was 1880 when John O’ Halloran arrived in the harbor of New York City. It was while he was being processed at Ellis Island that John O’ Halloran became called John Holloran, a US citizen.
Sometime in the 1880’s John met and later married Sabina McAvoy. During the years of their marriage John and Sabina had seven children. In 1890 Tessy, their first daughter, was born. Tessy was followed by Katie in 1891, Ana in 1893, May in 1894 and two other daughters who’s names remain to be a mystery. It is possible that because, in the days of John Holloran, the only records of life were Baptismal records the two unknown daughters died during infancy. John and Sabina’s youngest child and only son, Martin Holloran, was born in the year 1905.
Throughout his life John Holloran was known to have worked for four years at Cunard Lines, ten years on the Del Hudson or Eerie Canal, and then seventeen years as a New York City dock laborer. It is also believed that in the year 1900 the Hollorans were residing on Jackson Street in the notorious Five Points neighborhood of Lower Manhattan. A later census shows that by 1910 the family had moved to live at 55 Rose Street, Manhattan. While he was working on the construction of the Eerie canal John purchased a farm in Moristown New York. There is nothing further regarding the farm known until John’s death.
John Holloran, husband to Sabina and father of seven children, died on July 22nd of the year 1917 at Bellevue Hospital. He was 54 years of age. When the undertaker came to claim John’s remains Sabina sold him the farm in Moristown. John Holloran was then buried at slot number 17 3 B 6 of Calvary Cemetery. As a result of his father’s death Martin Holloran, then aged 12 years, began working for the Con Edison Company in order to provide for his mother and sisters.


I helped my brother write this piece for his 8th Grade Social Studies Project. We do plan on going to the cemetery to visit the grave however we are a bit reluctant. Apparently about a decade ago my great aunt, my grandfather's sister, went looking for certain relatives. When she arrived at the cemetery after calling the staff there tried charging her $1700 for up-keep of the grave site. In the end though it was proved that despite the family defaulting on payments my great aunt was not a direct descendant of the buried person and as such owed nothing. It seems that the moral of this story is to be careful when dredging up family history.

 

[sixties.nut]

I am Shocked

That they didn't try to charge her for a roofing job the decedent ordered just prior to his passing. Or a driveway paving. When you go to visit make sure to tell them your an unpaid researcher for the FL. They should then hook you up with a scenic tour.

All the Best.

 

[MPicciotto]

By chance was "Canard" a joke on "Cunard" and what you read clearly as "Canard" is indeed what you read but the intention is "Cunard"??

Matt

 

[greatestescaper]

The man in the photo is my great great grandfather John O'Halloran and the boy in the photo is my great grandfather Martin Holloran. I am unsure of exactly when this photo was taken though I believe it safe to say between 1910 and 1915.