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Can someone please help me find this type of leather jacket?

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Formeruser012524

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Ah, that's what creates the fold! Okay, got it now. It's a tab with a snap that folds the sleeve. This particular detail ought to narrow the search, too as it's rarely seen anywhere.
I'm not going to get into that level of complexity with the replica, but what exactly is meant here, just so I can understand it? Does it mean that the "previous" cuff I pointed out is not a decorative one but somehow part of this one?
 

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I was also hoping that this part of the zipper (below) might reveal some kind of logo / brand, but unfortunately it's too dark to see if there's anything on it, lol...

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I was also hoping that this part of the zipper (below) might reveal some kind of logo / brand, but unfortunately it's too dark to see if there's anything on it, lol...

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Nah, that's just YKK.

What's the name of that episode and what season is it from?
 

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Nah, that's just YKK.
I meant what appears to be a brown extension to the zipper, the round wooden/plastic thing attached to it.

What's the name of that episode and what season is it from?
Season two, episode 10, title "Red Museum".

Relevant timestamps:

1.) @ 28:00 - 28:12
2.) @ 32:18 - 32:36 (most significant one IMO)
3.) @ 41:51 - 42:31

BTW, although off-topic: An extremely convoluted episode, also a combination of standalone and mythology, totally NOT (!) recommended to watch for people who haven't seen the series from the beginning. It would confuse the hell out of them and most definitely leave them thinking "WTF kind of mess did I just watch?" :D
 
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OK, so... I did some measurements of my own two jackets for reference, the ones posted on page #3.

Jacket from first two pics:

Sleeve length starting at shoulder seam: 68 cm
Shoulder seam to shoulder seam length: 50 cm
Total length measured along backside, without collar: 69 cm
Total length measured along backside, with raised collar: 78 cm

Jacket from last two pics:

Sleeve length starting at shoulder seam: 69,5 cm
Shoulder seam to shoulder seam length: 51 cm
Total length measured along backside, without collar: 77 cm
Total length measured along backside, with raised collar: 86 cm


Based on this, and the original photos, I've decided that I want the sleeve length to be 67-68 cm, however "not" starting at the shoulder seam, which might be difficult to explain to the maker. And the total length (collar excluded / not raised) would be 76-77 cm.

I need to figure out how to best present what I want to the maker. I've started drawing, but I'm not certain whether to draw a "proportionate" version, let's say an "M" sized that fits "normally", and then tell them to "increase" it accordingly, to 3XL or whatever... or whether to draw exactly what I want, meaning the oversized version with lowered seams et cetera. The latter seems to make more sense, as it would avoid confusion, I think? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I've attempted technical 2D drawings for the jacket but it's proving quite difficult. Therefore, a question...

Would using photos from the original, and adding exact measurements I want, plus including pictures of similar jackets and photo-shopping them to look like the original, along with added/photo-shopped details and measurements, be a good way to approach it? I think I could pull that off solidly. The maker would "visually" see the jacket clearly along with every measurement and detail, just without a technical 2D drawing. Thoughts?
 

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Update: I have agreed with Five* Leathers - because it was a great idea from someone in this thread - that they make a prototype from cheap fabric once I submit all the measurements. This significantly lowers the risk of the final product "off".
 

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Grabbed some better screenshots for you, maybe it can help with 5* getting the details right. Click on each for a full size preview.
That's fantastic, thank you! It took you a lot of time to do this!

The only two higher res versions that would be missing are the one where he's standing in the dark holding the lighter, and also this one below, because of another look at that "decorative" cuff...

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But perhaps a higher res of those two particular ones isn't needed.

How do you suggest I provide the measurements the best way? "Oversize" version right from the start, by labeling/marking the photos etc.?

I also think I'm going to simplify certain aspects of it, for example there's no way I'm going to attempt that weird overlapping cuff thing, as I don't even understand what is going on there. I might just use the version I have from one of my own jackets.
 
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That's fantastic, thank you! It took you a lot of time to do this!

The only two higher res versions that would be missing are the one where he's standing in the dark holding the lighter, and also this one below, because of another look at that "decorative" cuff...

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But perhaps a higher res of those two particular ones isn't needed.

How do you suggest I provide the measurements the best way? "Oversize" version right from the start, by labeling/marking the photos etc.?

I also think I'm going to simplify certain aspects of it, for example there's no way I'm going to attempt that weird overlapping cuff thing, as I don't even understand what is going on there. I might just use the version I have from one of my own jackets.

Not much else is visible in the meat packing plant scene that would in any way help with what we got so far. I think we have the jacket pretty much figured out by now.

My suggestion is you send them as many photos as you have - All of these, for instance - and in addition to all the details, explain this is how you want it to fit. Deliberate over-sizing would in this case be the key. 5* ought be used by now to specific customer requests and I'm sure they'll figure it out for you.

The folding sleeve/cuff isn't such a big deal, as far as I can see. It's just a tab that once snapped-on, simply bunches the sleeve end to narrow it down. Doesn't seem like there's much engineering involved in it. I'd say it'd be easier for them to make this than the snap-on cuff from your other jacket and honestly, now that we've gotten this far to nail all the details, why not get the jacket to look as close to screen accurate as possible. :D I think it'd be a fun project.
 

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Not much else is visible in the meat packing plant scene that would in any way help with what we got so far. I think we have the jacket pretty much figured out by now.

My suggestion is you send them as many photos as you have - All of these, for instance - and in addition to all the details, explain this is how you want it to fit. Deliberate over-sizing would in this case be the key. 5* ought be used by now to specific customer requests and I'm sure they'll figure it out for you.

The folding sleeve/cuff isn't such a big deal, as far as I can see. It's just a tab that once snapped-on, simply bunches the sleeve end to narrow it down. Doesn't seem like there's much engineering involved in it. I'd say it'd be easier for them to make this than the snap-on cuff from your other jacket and honestly, now that we've gotten this far to nail all the details, why not get the jacket to look as close to screen accurate as possible. :D I think it'd be a fun project.
Interesting. So what I described as a "decorative cuff" earlier now doesn't seem to be decorative, but part of the other cuff? And the "decorative" part is not a decorative cuff, but just another "connection" similar to the vertical line along the sleeve?
 

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Grabbed some better screenshots for you, maybe it can help with 5* getting the details right. Click on each for a full size preview.

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Funny... shoulder gusset with bat sleeves ;)
BTW... when ordering from 5* it is best to specify each measurement exactly. The more the better.
Anything not specified is left to chance.
Just to say that are my measurements and now please once oversized will not work. For the jacket, you absolutely have to make "round" shoulders. Pointy shoulders will certainly not look good.
 

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Funny... shoulder gusset with bat sleeves ;)
BTW... when ordering from 5* it is best to specify each measurement exactly. The more the better.
Anything not specified is left to chance.
Just to say that are my measurements and now please once oversized will not work. For the jacket, you absolutely have to make "round" shoulders. Pointy shoulders will certainly not look good.
Makes sense, definitely round shoulders.

So my own height / chest circumference / waist size would actually be irrelevant information for them in this case, right?
 
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