"Bash." Not a hatter's term?

[jlee562]

Coming into fedoras from the Indy world, I picked up "bash" initially. As I've come to know more about hats, and appreciate the qualities of a good hat, I've come to prefer "crease." It just seems more fitting to me.

 

[tonyb]

I can't believe this thread is STILL going..(shakes head & goes back to the bashing/creasing/shaping/smashing/blocking freakin bench)

And it pops up again, more than three years later.

I'm with you, Art. I don't care what a person calls it, so long as we understand each other.

And even if it is a neologism, and not a "real" hatter's term (leastwise not north of the equator), well, so what? Everything was new once.

 

[mingoslim]

We could start some AB-meetings for loungers ... "Hi, my name is Ole, and I'm a basher."

I think it would be BA . . . Basher's Anon . . . AB would be Alcoholic Bashers.
Come to think of it, for some of us AB is more correct

 

[gtdean48]

Sweet!

both campdrafts have a horse head pin from buckaroo hatters.

 

[RBH]

Sweet!

Yes...very sweet!!!!

 

[Zombie_61]

When I ordered my Fed IV in 2008 it arrived bashed, but it wasn't creased so I was able to style it.

 

[RBH]

I ran across this ad from '54...just had to repost it here!

 

[1961MJS]

Both Campdrafts have a horse head pin from Buckaroo Hatters.

Hi Rusty

How are those attached? I have a bunch of pins that would look good on the hat, but the divet in my head would hurt.

Later

 

[Genuine Classic Gangster]

I think the term "bash" is perfectly accurate when referring to the styling of a hat done by hand...

This business about accuracy is nonsense. If I, a person who grew up in the upper midwest United States, say "trousers" instead of "pants", am I being inaccurate? No, I'm just using a term more common in a different dialect

I do not think that "bash" is an accurate or a good term to describe creases because the word bash contains negative connotations which imply violence and recklessness. Who would want a hatter to be violent to and reckless with his hats? I certainly would not, especially since good new hats usually start at around $400 nowadays and can easily get much more expensive. That kind of money amounts to an investment, and investments are to be protected, not squandered through careless handling.

Likening "trousers and pants" to "bash and crease" is an apples-to-oranges comparison. The word "bash" contains negative connotations that are not present in the word "crease." On the other hand, the word "trousers" and the word "pants" do not have different connotations (rather, the connotations of each are synonymous).

 

[alanfgag]

... Unless it's a real good party.

 

[scotrace]

Still hard to get shed of this term.

 

[belfastboy]

Still hard to get shed of this term.

I love the term. One aspect of vintage hats is their soft, malleable hand. Watching vintage movies so many of the hats worn have a great casual air where it appears the hat is grabbed and plunked on the head. The crease (or bash) is however it ends up after plunking on the head. So in this instance, I think 'bash' is a very apt term.

Insouciance is another good descriptor for the look if not the act.

 

[Who?]

I think people get really wound up over some very strange things.

 

[Edward]

Interesting thread. I've noticed I think of creasing a hat in terms of 'bash' too, which I obviously picked up in these parts. I suspect thinking about it I'd never seen an open crown hat before I lit on this joint and the resident enablers pulled me down the rabbit hole. It's been a great ride, and long may it continue! ;

Another thing that I realise is..... I've never (aside from a wool trilby in 1992!) bought a brimmed hat in a hat shop in person - only online. I mean, I've visited hat shops (once to the Hatcentre to exchange for size purposes I hat I bought as a gift for a friend, others to Bates, Locks, Laird...), but in central London they tend to be a bit North of my budget....