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[M Hatman]

High to low:

Excellent
Premier
Royal DeLuxe
Royal

Not all hats are available in all quality levels and it varies year to year.

Fall 2017 city hats catalog link:
http://www.hat-co.com/perch//resources/f17stetsoncitydigital.pdf

On page nine (where the catalog shows the Premier Whippets and Strats) it clearly designates "Royal Deluxe" at the top of the page. All the offerings on that page (plus many other pages as indicated at the top of each) are Royal Deluxe.
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M

 

[deadlyhandsome]

On page nine (where the catalog shows the Premier Whippets and Strats) it clearly designates "Royal Deluxe" at the top of the page. All the offerings on that page (plus many other pages as indicated at the top of each) are Royal Deluxe.
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M

Yeah, and saw that in the catalog too. I think I'm pummeling the deceased equine again. I think I read too much in to Anthony's earlier posts and the normal differences in felts and packaging.

 

[Frunobulax]

One other thought on the perception of quality sizing can greatly effect the feel of even the same quality felt. many of the standard factory creased (pressed) hats have considerably more sizing (stiffener) than others.....also most all the open crowns have a LOT less stiffener than their pressed counterparts.....giving the felt a softer hand and thus feeling of "higher" quality.

Well, at least I can take satisfaction in having the one color you don't. [emoji14]


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[Frunobulax]

I just re-read his posts. Anthony was specific about liking the Premeir and advising to stay away from the Royal DeLuxe. Curious.

On phone, so I haven't looked, but since Premiers ARE Royal Deluxe, it's a distinction without a difference.


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[deadlyhandsome]

On phone, so I haven't looked, but sine Premiers ARE Royal Deluxe, it's a distinction without a difference.


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Sounds like a lot of my life.

I really do appreciate the wealth of knowledge here.

 

[Frunobulax]

Sounds like a lot of my life.

I really do appreciate the wealth of knowledge here.

There is so much in the back pages. I spent the first three months here just reading all the threads about hat history, models, ads, etc. It's fascinating.


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[M Hatman]

Well, at least I can take satisfaction in having the one color you don't. [emoji14]


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Oh man....................are we the same size.....do I need to get into a black ops uniform and visit your hat herd?
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M

 

[Milpro]

Looks nice......I did up my Premier Strat in silverbelly like that with the front and rear pinches......gives it a sort of 20's vibe as they did that then......that hat gets me a lot of compliments.......
Really like the shark gill bow on yours.....someone here will be able to give you more info about your hat.
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M

I cleaned it and gabe it a heavy steaming then ironed the brim. It had a harsh curl to it that wasn't right. It took the iron well and went back to it's normal shape. I also had to repair the Biltmore pin because the stickpin fell off when I removed it prior to cleaning.

It turned out beautiful.

 

[M Hatman]

I cleaned it and gabe it a heavy steaming then ironed the brim. It had a harsh curl to it that wasn't right. It took the iron well and went back to it's normal shape. I also had to repair the Biltmore pin because the stickpin fell off when I removed it prior to cleaning.

It turned out beautiful.

Looks good!! Congratulations!!
M

 

[jonesy86]

Oh man....................are we the same size.....do I need to get into a black ops uniform and visit your hat herd?
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M

What hat would you wear, a black beret?

 

[M Hatman]

What hat would you wear, a black beret?

HEAVENS NO.......The black Stetsonian, of course!
M

 

[Frunobulax]

Oh man....................are we the same size.....do I need to get into a black ops uniform and visit your hat herd?
Best,
M

The Hat Vault is ninja proof.


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[M Hatman]

The Hat Vault is ninja proof.


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DAMB...................
M

 

[jonesy86]

DAMB...................
M

The Fedora Ninja. Someone should pitch a screenplay. [emoji3]


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[Bugleboy10]

Does a black fedora with a silver band look good on a medium gray suit? Thinking of getting the Biltmore Park Ave, which will probably only be worn with that one suit. The shirt and tie to go with it will vary. And does anyone know for sure if that's a silver band? One retailer mentions a silver print band, while another makes no mention of it.

 

[cozy d]

That's an unreeded sweat, so it's not even that simple. This sweatband is attached directly to the felt.

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UPDATE: I'm really starting to like this hat, the styling looks very interesting and cool, it is very comfortable, and the felt feels really nice, it's relatively thin, and "beavery" (should I use that word?). It's become clear to me however, that this sweatband shouldn't be reused (it's cracking), but I may still try to use some double-sided tape to see how long it will last.

I'm writing to ask about the sweatband stitching. One very weird thing about this hat is that, when you look from the bottom, the sweatband is obviously stitched directly to the felt, but I've looked all around the top of the hat and when viewed from the top, there is no evidence of the sweatband stitching anywhere on the top side. I've got about a dozen quality felt fedoras and western hats and on every one of them you can see and feel the stitches under the hatband/ribbon where the sweat was stitched in. It's like the stitches on this one only go half way through the felt??

Here's the view from the bottom, notice the cracking that has shown up since I've been messing with it, you can see the stitch that holds the hatband in, but this picture is meant to show a bottom view of the way the sweat is sewn into the felt.... https://photos.app.goo.gl/wPix1tCewGLC2b793

Now look from the top side... there is no stitching...see... https://photos.app.goo.gl/iLBs5iaQMvFruT6b2 you can look/feel all around and I don't think you will find any sweatband threads coming through the top. Is this unusual?? Can you expect someone to replace the sweat and be able to duplicate this kind of discreet stitching?

 

[Frunobulax]

UPDATE: I'm really starting to like this hat, the styling looks very interesting and cool, it is very comfortable, and the felt feels really nice, it's relatively thin, and "beavery" (should I use that word?). It's become clear to me however, that this sweatband shouldn't be reused (it's cracking), but I may still try to use some double-sided tape to see how long it will last.

I'm writing to ask about the sweatband stitching. One very weird thing about this hat is that, when you look from the bottom, the sweatband is obviously stitched directly to the felt, but I've looked all around the top of the hat and when viewed from the top, there is no evidence of the sweatband stitching anywhere on the top side. I've got about a dozen quality felt fedoras and western hats and on every one of them you can see and feel the stitches under the hatband/ribbon where the sweat was stitched in. It's like the stitches on this one only go half way through the felt??

Here's the view from the bottom, notice the cracking that has shown up since I've been messing with it, you can see the stitch that holds the hatband in, but this picture is meant to show a bottom view of the way the sweat is sewn into the felt.... https://photos.app.goo.gl/wPix1tCewGLC2b793

Now look from the top side... there is no stitching...see... https://photos.app.goo.gl/iLBs5iaQMvFruT6b2 you can look/feel all around and I don't think you will find any sweatband threads coming through the top. Is this unusual?? Can you expect someone to replace the sweat and be able to duplicate this kind of discreet stitching?

Reeded sweats and unreeded sweats are attached in a different manner. Yes, the stitching on yours only goes halfway through the felt. Though I think some are talented enough to do this by hand, most were done using a specialty machine that performed this action. I'm not sure which, if any, of our custom hatters will still tackle an unreeded sweat. With a reeded sweatband, the leather is attached to a sheathed monofilament reed with a backing on it. This backing is sewn to the hat as you mention, with the stitching going through the felt. This stitching is then hidden by the hat's ribbon.


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[AbridgedPause]

Does anyone know what hat brand this is?

 

[1mach1]

I cannot make out the image in those pics. Have any better ones?

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[ChristopherJay]

I have 3 option for sizing. Paper crown, leather sweatband and portable conformator

Where might I be able to acquire one of these portable conformateurs? I’m having the worst luck finding anything so far.

Thank you!