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[gtdean48]

I hear you there Mr.Dean,just a quick question did you tell your wife you were buying that $3500.00 cowboy hat?

Our relationship is based on begging for forgiveness instead of asking for permission!!!!!
If I do pay that much for something, I'd better be able to ride on it or in it....or put in on her finger or around her neck....

 

[nice hat dude!]

Our relationship is based on begging for forgiveness instead of asking for permission!!!!!
If I do pay that much for something, I'd better be able to ride on it or in it....or put in on her finger or around her neck....

Mines a little more simple than that,if I did that I'd just have to find a new place to live.(haha)

 

[gtdean48]

Mines a little more simple than that,if I did that I'd just have to find a new place to live.(haha)

I already have the campground picked out, just need to drag the camper there....

 

[nice hat dude!]

I already have the campground picked out, just need to drag the camper there....

Camper is in the back up on blocks but somehow I don't think that would be allowed maybe............Saskatchewan.(haha)

 

[nice hat dude!]

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a wide brimmed "Pork Pie"?

 

[gtdean48]

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a wide brimmed "Pork Pie"?

Commonly known as a gambler....just a telescope crease...Elko style too

 

[nice hat dude!]

Commonly known as a gambler....just a telescope crease...Elko style too

Thanks Mr.Dean but I was thinking more along the lines of a Fedora style and not so much western?

 

[hatophile]

NHD, you can take any fedora and make a porkpie by making a telescope crease.

 

[nice hat dude!]

NHD, you can take any fedora and make a porkpie by making a telescope crease.

Thanks Hatophile, just to reiterate "I" can't but I could get it done for me(haha),do you know if anyone sells them precreased as such?

 

[Historyteach24]

Here is a tutorial on how to make any hat a telescope crease from a Stetson hat maker http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jL-XrmKYyj0

 

[Historyteach24]

Thanks Hatophile, just to reiterate "I" can't but I could get it done for me(haha),do you know if anyone sells them precreased as such?

Akubra campdrafts can be creased by david morgan in a telescope. I believe they charge 20 bucks to crease the hat for you

 

[gtdean48]

Akubra campdrafts can be creased by david morgan in a telescope. I believe they charge 20 bucks to crease the hat for you

Akubra's catalog shows a few models creased like that & some are not listed as open crown models...

 

[hatsRme]

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a wide brimmed "Pork Pie"?

It depends on what you think of as "wide." There are certainly plenty of stingies out there today. Here's one example, I guess...
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?13023-Art-Fawcett-VS-Hall-of-Fame/page731
Is this what you mean?

 

[nice hat dude!]

It depends on what you think of as "wide." There are certainly plenty of stingies out there today. Here's one example, I guess...
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?13023-Art-Fawcett-VS-Hall-of-Fame/page731
Is this what you mean?

Yea that's what I meant,thanks for that,maybe a touch more brim but that's real close.Thanks again to all of you.NHD

 

[mystereons41]

Hello all,

I am new to the world of hats. I am considering purchasing a hat, but I have a couple concerns about it. The hat in question is a mid 50's Stetson Royal DeLuxe. It is missing the size tag and the brim binding has been removed. From a collector's standpoint, does this reduce the value considerably?

Thanks!

 

[gtdean48]

Hello all,

I am new to the world of hats. I am considering purchasing a hat, but I have a couple concerns about it. The hat in question is a mid 50's Stetson Royal DeLuxe. It is missing the size tag and the brim binding has been removed. From a collector's standpoint, does this reduce the value considerably?

Thanks!

Since you used the phrase "collector's standpoint", yes. No size tag & any alteration from original state reduces value. IMHO removing a bound edge from an original vintage model, like a Whippet or Open Road, drastically reduces value from collector's standpoint....

 

[jlee562]

The short answer is yes.

The long answer is that the price of a vintage hat on 'the market' today depends on a lot of factors, including size. Personally I tend to think that unless it's one of the more iconic Stetson models (Stratoliner, Open Road, Whippet, etc), the issue of of collectors value is significantly diminished. Stetson was producing hundreds of variations of hats back then, and most of the model names aren't even remembered. Further, Royal Deluxe was only Stetson's second highest quality designation; although it's in all likelihood still superior to a modern hat, IMHO, from a collector's standpoint, the more valuable hats are going to be the higher grade felts (although with caveats, e.g., Royal quality Playboys).

Just my $.02.

If you like the hat and it fits, buy it.

 

[mystereons41]

Thank you both for the input!

 

[John in Covina]

Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a wide brimmed "Pork Pie"?

You will see some in the 1950's in Them Arness has a telescopis with a widish brimm. Perry Mason wore a similar one in s few episodes. Also i recall seeing some film about some guys in zoot suits that worn a very wide brim with telescope crown but can't think of the film. Pork Pie is usually the telescopic crown and a short brim so technically the wide brim breaks the rules but if your just thinking of the telescopic crown yes there are some.

 

[nice hat dude!]

You will see some in the 1950's in Them Arness has a telescopis with a widish brimm. Perry Mason wore a similar one in s few episodes. Also i recall seeing some film about some guys in zoot suits that worn a very wide brim with telescope crown but can't think of the film. Pork Pie is usually the telescopic crown and a short brim so technically the wide brim breaks the rules but if your just thinking of the telescopic crown yes there are some.

Thanks John got my answer HatsRme found pretty much exactly what I was talking about,and no the brim on the "Tandos" of the Zoot Suiters are to wide.