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[Bamaboots]

packer draw

Found a couple of pics that maybe help some with the context. Found it difficult to find a good profile shot that best illustrates the brim.

 

[Frunobulax]

That's what it's commonly called in parts of the world that still have wild frontiers left, where they might still wear such outdoor hats for exploration (& they've never heard of Indiana Jones). This pic should help illustrate the draw.

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Found a couple of pics that maybe help some with the context. Found it difficult to find a good profile shot that best illustrates the brim.
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I kind of suspected that it was the brim shape. But why Packer? Does it have to do with maybe pack mules or something similar?

The Googles only get me as far as Green Bay.

 

[Bamaboots]

But why Packer?

It’s all about Green Bay, it originated there. Just kidding. I think it might be a regional thing but the cowboys I’ve been around might call it a draw or ‘helluva brim break on that one.’ And some maybe “swoop”. Not one I’d use.

 

[johnnycanuck]

I kind of suspect it has something to do with the fact you can wear it while wearing a pack on your back. Curves down to your neck so it doesn't hit the pack...Reminds me of the old Photos for the Chilkoot trail.

Also good for when your wearing it in your car so it doesn't hit the head rest.
Johnny

 

[Hurricane Jack]

I kind of suspected that it was the brim shape.

While I'm not really a fan, I have always liked the .Australian version best. From the level side it looks like the hat is built on a perfect arc.

 

[Frunobulax]

While I'm not really a fan, I have always liked the .Australian version best. From the level side it looks like the hat is built on a perfect arc.

Yeah, I usually refer to that type of hat as an Outback hat, but now I can expand my vocabulary.

 

[The Shoe]

Just wondering if anyone here has bought through Nungar Trading in Australia recently. I did a search and the most recent postings I could find were from 2016. Their prices on Akubras are about $AU30~60 Cheaper than Hats Direct or Hats by the Hundred, but no information about shipping - it gets calculated after the order is placed.
Posting the same question on Akubra Overload.

 

[Mm25]

So I am planning on treating myself to a new Akubra. I originally wanted a Campdraft in Fawn but that doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. At least not right now. Everyone is out of stock. So I am looking at the Territory and Sombrero right now. Get the ultimate shade maker for sun protection. Can anyone comment on either hat? I have a Stetson 5X with a 4 inch brim that’s pretty dang heavy. Are these hats just as heavy or lighter? @deadlyhandsome may know? Any input will be appreciated from anyone.
Johnny

I have a territory, a bushman, and a sombrero. Bushman, like Brent says, is about the same as a camp draft and not in the same league as the other two. The Territory is a hat I wear all the time and highly recommend. I have reshaped the brim and so the packer look Jack refers to is gone. The sombrero is only available in superfine felt, I believe, and is really, really a big hat. (and I wear a lot of big hats). That said, I like them all.

 

[johnnycanuck]

I have a territory, a bushman, and a sombrero. Bushman, like Brent says, is about the same as a camp draft and not in the same league as the other two. The Territory is a hat I wear all the time and highly recommend. I have reshaped the brim and so the packer look Jack refers to is gone. The sombrero is only available in superfine felt, I believe, and is really, really a big hat. (and I wear a lot of big hats). That said, I like them all.

Great to hear. Any pictures you’d be willing to share?
Johnny

 

[Mm25]

Tried to get some comparison photos. Still doesn’t really capture how much bigger the sombrero is. Bushman has a 3 inch brim, Territory is 3.5, Sombrero is 4.5 in front and back, even with the curl.

 

[johnnycanuck]

Tried to get some comparison photos. Still doesn’t really capture how much bigger the sombrero is. Bushman has a 3 inch brim, Territory is 3.5, Sombrero is 4.5 in front and back, even with the curl. View attachment 334714 View attachment 334715 View attachment 334716

That is one large hat. I like the crown work you did on that and the territory. I wondered what you do with so much crown. I think I would get a lot of mileage out of a territory and I don’t have a khaki colour in my collection yet but I am drawn to the sombrero. I remember my dad, years ago, telling me about this guy he just saw on TV called the Bush Tucker Man and how I should get a hat like that.
Johnny

 

[Mm25]

That is one large hat. I like the crown work you did on that and the territory. I wondered what you do with so much crown. I think I would get a lot of mileage out of a territory and I don’t have a khaki colour in my collection yet but I am drawn to the sombrero. I remember my dad, years ago, telling me about this guy he just saw on TV called the Bush Tucker Man and how I should get a hat like that.
Johnny

You know the only answer is...get them both!

 

[johnnycanuck]

You know the only answer is...get them both!

Should have seen that coming. Now how to get it past the wife?!?
Johnny

 

[Rmccamey]

We need a new thread, Johnny, "What we tell our wives/husbands so we can but another hat"!

Should have seen that coming. Now how to get it past the wife?!?
Johnny

 

[Michel GAsco]

Thanks for your answers @belfastboy , @deadlyhandsome and @Steve1857, I´m going to check the Agnoulita Hats thread, and keep on asking for my new hat!

 

[CarynLea]

This seems to work on other sites, so I figure that it deserves a shot here.

If you've got a quick hat question and don't see a thread for it, just post it here. Whether the question is about cleaning, anatomy of a hat, brands, etc., this is the place.

Here's one to break the ice.

Hello Lefty! I'm very new here and I'm not sure if I'm posting my question correctly (I'm posting a reply to your post)? My question is... Is there any method to keep wrinkles from forming on the underside of wide brims during the felting process? If I felt with a resist there are not as many wrinkles, but I can't make the brims as wide. If I felt by making a large felt fabric and pulling it onto a hat block, the wrinkles come while I felt... And I can't get them out with steam, pressing, massaging. I'd like to learn how to make a flat brim with a smooth underside. Any suggestions?? Thanks! Caryn

 

[belfastboy]

Hello Lefty! I'm very new here and I'm not sure if I'm posting my question correctly (I'm posting a reply to your post)? My question is... Is there any method to keep wrinkles from forming on the underside of wide brims during the felting process? If I felt with a resist there are not as many wrinkles, but I can't make the brims as wide. If I felt by making a large felt fabric and pulling it onto a hat block, the wrinkles come while I felt... And I can't get them out with steam, pressing, massaging. I'd like to learn how to make a flat brim with a smooth underside. Any suggestions?? Thanks! Caryn

Most, if not all , the hatters here in the Lounge use fur felt and buy it already felted so if you don't get a ready answer to your problem it is because we (I) don't know as we have little to no experience with felting...I assume wool. This might be an ignorant question but have you tried, after blocking the crown, pinning the brim to a flat board all round the 360 degrees under tension. Might that help? You may need to cut a hole in a ply board the size of your block circumference to station it while the brim is under the tension.

 

[belfastboy]

Hello Lefty! I'm very new here and I'm not sure if I'm posting my question correctly (I'm posting a reply to your post)? My question is... Is there any method to keep wrinkles from forming on the underside of wide brims during the felting process? If I felt with a resist there are not as many wrinkles, but I can't make the brims as wide. If I felt by making a large felt fabric and pulling it onto a hat block, the wrinkles come while I felt... And I can't get them out with steam, pressing, massaging. I'd like to learn how to make a flat brim with a smooth underside. Any suggestions?? Thanks! Caryn

Once in a while I will get what I call ripples or creases in parts of the brim. They are not deep and not numerous but I just use water on the affected area, soaking it but not the entire brim just the crease. Give it a good shot of steam and then a final pressing with my 'poor mans' brim press.....a 20 lb slab of metal with a handle in the shape of an iron. I imagine it is an antique iron that was heated on the stove. It was sold on Ebay as a 'door stop'. I heat it on a hot plate for about 20 minutes using a wet press cloth between the iron and the fur felt. It works. I have to be cautious to feather the wrinkled area as the heavy weight of the iron and my pressing can create new voids outboard the original wrinkle. But with a bit of work and some finesse it takes the wrinkle out.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Hello Lefty! I'm very new here and I'm not sure if I'm posting my question correctly (I'm posting a reply to your post)? My question is... Is there any method to keep wrinkles from forming on the underside of wide brims during the felting process? If I felt with a resist there are not as many wrinkles, but I can't make the brims as wide. If I felt by making a large felt fabric and pulling it onto a hat block, the wrinkles come while I felt... And I can't get them out with steam, pressing, massaging. I'd like to learn how to make a flat brim with a smooth underside. Any suggestions?? Thanks! Caryn

Lefty sightings are pretty rare these days.

How much are you willing to spend? If you don’t want to improvise then here’s your solution:

 

[belfastboy]

Lefty sightings are pretty rare these days.

How much are you willing to spend? If you don’t want to improvise then here’s your solution:

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I know it is a sin....but I covet my neighbour's Brim Iron! Perhaps in another lifetime or a lottery win. In the meantime I have to use my Ebay 'door stop'....tis my cross to bear.