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[Marc mndt]

@Harris HTM the hangers have arrived and they're (almost) perfect.

I found these on Amazon. Perfect slope and width. I ordered the slim ones for my gf's jackets and the thicker ones for my leather jackets.

The problem with my previous Aero Leathers hangers was that they didn't distribute the weight of the jacket onto the hanger evenly. All the weight was focused onto two points, causing dimples in the leather as you can see here with this Thedi. Plus the metal hook is too short to accomodate mouton collars.

Therefore I tried to find a hanger with a slope that allows for perfect weight distribution across the hanger. 135 degrees turned out to be the number.
As you can see, jackets are supported all the way from the neck to the shoulder end.

The diagonal creases you see on the cafe racer are not caused by this hanger, but they're the result of years of hanging on a hanger that had a too narrow slope.

Here's the results. Slim hangers for cloth jackets and for my gf's leather jackets, thick hangers for my leather jackets.

Why aren't they perfect? The width of the hook is 4 cm. 5 would have been better for smooth sliding on the rail.

Here's the link
https://www.amazon.nl/SONGMICS-kost...ocphy=9064942&hvtargid=pla-760771380858&psc=1

 

[Kubatu]

So how much t-shirt is appropriate to stick out from under your jacket?

How much is too much?
These are the important questions my friends.

I know it when I see it.

 

[Harris HTM]

@Harris HTM the hangers have arrived and they're (almost) perfect.

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I found these on Amazon. Perfect slope and width. I ordered the slim ones for my gf's jackets and the thicker ones for my leather jackets.

The problem with my previous Aero Leathers hangers was that they didn't distribute the weight of the jacket onto the hanger evenly. All the weight was focused onto two points, causing dimples in the leather as you can see here with this Thedi. Plus the metal hook is too short to accomodate mouton collars.
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Therefore I tried to find a hanger with a slope that allows for perfect weight distribution across the hanger. 135 degrees turned out to be the number.
As you can see, jackets are supported all the way from the neck to the shoulder end. View attachment 306839

The diagonal creases you see on the cafe racer are not caused by this hanger, but they're the result of years of hanging on a hanger that had a too narrow slope.

Here's the results. Slim hangers for cloth jackets and for my gf's leather jackets, thick hangers for my leather jackets. View attachment 306823
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Why aren't they perfect? The width of the hook is 4 cm. 5 would have been better for smooth sliding on the rail.

Here's the link
https://www.amazon.nl/SONGMICS-kost...ocphy=9064942&hvtargid=pla-760771380858&psc=1

Thanks for the update Marc, may I also ask where did you get this nice stand for the jackets?

 

[Marc mndt]

Thanks for the update Marc, may I also ask where did you get this nice stand for the jackets?

Hay Loopstand. You can put your full weight on it, it won't topple over. Plus it doesn't take much space.

https://www.hayonlinewinkel.com/nl/...loop_stand_maat-wardrobe_b130_x_d60_x_h150_cm

 

[Harris HTM]

Hay Loopstand. You can put your full weight on it, it won't topple over. Plus it doesn't take much space.

https://www.hayonlinewinkel.com/nl/...loop_stand_maat-wardrobe_b130_x_d60_x_h150_cm

Thanks, really nice!

 

[willyto]

So how much t-shirt is appropriate to stick out from under your jacket?

How much is too much?
These are the important questions my friends.

Any amount of shirt or tee showing under the jacket is too much.

Tucked shirts and tees is the way to go for me.

 

[MrProper]

So how much t-shirt is appropriate to stick out from under your jacket?

How much is too much?
These are the important questions my friends.

The nice thing nowadays is that everyone can do it the way he likes it. So I would say there are no rules other than your own taste.

 

[Superfluous]

The nice thing nowadays is that everyone can do it the way he likes it. So I would say there are no rules other than your own taste.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

Any amount of shirt or tee showing under the jacket is too much.

Tucked shirts and tees is the way to go for me.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Any amount of shirt hanging below your jacket is too much. Tucking FTW.

Obviously, do whatever you want... but opinions were asked for.

 

[Superfluous]

In my experience, the "best" hanger is entirely dependent on the cut of the jacket -- in particular, the angle/slope of the shoulders. With certain of my jackets, there is a significant slope from the edge of the collar to the edge of the shoulder. Aero hangers do not work well for these jackets. Instead, a hanger similar to that purchased by @Marc mndt is ideal (with pipe insulation along the edge of the hanger). On the other hand, certain of my jackets have much less slope from the collar to the edge of the shoulder. Aero hangers work great for these jackets (again, with the addition of pipe insulation). When I buy a new jacket, I test it on different hangers. The best hanger quickly becomes apparent.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

I'm starting to feel bad for not putting nearly enough thought into my hangar choices...

 

[Marc mndt]

I'm starting to feel bad for not putting nearly enough thought into my hangar choices...

Well, we put a lot of thought into our jackets. Why not put a little thought into the hangers too

Here's the HD laying flat on the table. That diagonal crease is caused by hanging on a hanger with the wrong slope. This is a relatively light weight jacket. Having the right hanger is even more important for heavy weight jackets of course because there's more weight pulling down.

 

[Lone Starr]

I have a question. I have an ELMC Californian and the ball and chain on the chest zipper looks a bit strange when closed, hanging on the outside end by the sleeve. I notice Good Wear is hanging to the center as I am used to seeing. Is this a 'British thing', like driving on the left? My ELMC Californian main zipper slider stays on the US side. Hmmm... Are there vintage half belts that close to the outside?

 

[JurassicUtility]

That looks like Liberty Horsehide, color, texture, wear. Looks Great to me.

Here is a Victory Duke

https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8EqX9ixASxKccXSA

Here is the Victory Duke and Liberty Monarch A2, Liberty Dodger

https://goo.gl/photos/5YdgYRH71LZsjeWy9

Here are a some for comparison

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Interesting. I agree the way my specimen is wearing looks like Liberty. I do notice that the color of the leather on my jacket has a lot of red character. Is that red color at all indicative of Victory horsehide, or does Liberty have that as well? Your Liberty example has more of a beige/brown under color to my eyes, but that could just be the lighting or a color difference between different finishes.

 

[Seb Lucas]

So how much t-shirt is appropriate to stick out from under your jacket?

How much is too much?
These are the important questions my friends.

I don't think about it. It sticks out, I move on

 

[Marc mndt]

I have a question. I have an ELMC Californian and the ball and chain on the chest zipper looks a bit strange when closed, hanging on the outside end by the sleeve. I notice Good Wear is hanging to the center as I am used to seeing. Is this a 'British thing', like driving on the left? My ELMC Californian main zipper slider stays on the US side. Hmmm... Are there vintage half belts that close to the outside?

Good question. I had exactly the same thoughts so I decided to check the rin tanaka motorcycle jacket book. Almost all of those vintage jackets have chest pocket zippers that close to the inside. There are a few that have the pull pictured on the outside but I think that's because the zipper is open.
Seems to me like ELMC made an odd design choice. No idea about their rationale.

 

[tmitchell59]

Interesting. I agree the way my specimen is wearing looks like Liberty. I do notice that the color of the leather on my jacket has a lot of red character. Is that red color at all indicative of Victory horsehide, or does Liberty have that as well? Your Liberty example has more of a beige/brown under color to my eyes, but that could just be the lighting or a color difference between different finishes.

I have seen a few Victory HH jackets. None of them wear like your jacket. I have owned and worn my extensively and it does not look like your jacket.

Do you know the age of the jacket? I don't think they have used Victory in the last few years, just too expensive.

I think your jackets look Great, I don't think it is Victory. The wear on your jacket is a prime example of what they wanted Liberty HH to do, wear in quickly. Victory does not wear like that.

Who told you this is Victory HH? If you want more information write Bill Kelso or post it on their Facebook page if is still there.

 

[tmitchell59]

hanging on the outside end by the sleeve

Like this? Never thought about it. The Bill Kelso closes to the inside. Even though they are often seen on contemporary jackets they are somewhat rare on vintage jackets. Expense and war-time metal shortages probably limited their use. You seldom see them past 1940.

 

[tmitchell59]

Just found this album of the Victory Duke. Shows more details of the leather.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/H8EqX9ixASxKccXSA

 

[tmitchell59]