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[realgone]

It looks like a fake Aero (replaced label) to me. No top stitch on the sleeve / body attachment. Aero label looks weird. The main zip is an Ailee, a zipper you'll find on French jackets from the 80s or 90s.

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Maybe @Hide'n'seek can tell

Yes, that's the zipper, Ailee. This is really interesting, and thankfully in case it turns out to be a fugazi, I didn't pay much for it.
I'll have more pics of the sleeve repair area and the label tomorrow.

 

[realgone]

What's the measurement from chest to hem? P2P 23" down to Hem 21" or 24" down to 22"?

Any other tags inside?

Anyone know if this could be the Conolly hide? Is the Aero brand tag old enough for that to be true?

This one also has no top stitching on the shoulder/sleeve seams. Interesting.

Looks like a zip sleeve Highwayman.

p2p is 20.5", hem is 20", s2s is 18.5", back length 25 1/4", sleeve outer length 25 1/4"

 

[realgone]

Should I keep this cal? It’s a bit small.

If that was my jacket and it fit that well, I'd be keeping it.

 

[newtojackets]

Can anyone help identify the make of this?

 

[AHP91]

Sorry, what? This is a picture of the left shoulder area. Thanks

 

[semolina_pilchard]

Does anyone own a Beck Northeaster 999 in either size 38, 40 or 42, and could you provide chest, shoulder, sleeve and back length measurements please?

Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324514536797 with the early tag - I think they are from the 40s, maybe early 50s.

 

[jeo]

Does anyone own a Beck Northeaster 999 in either size 38, 40 or 42, and could you provide chest, shoulder, sleeve and back length measurements please?

Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324514536797 with the early tag - I think they are from the 40s, maybe early 50s.

Here’s a link to a sold listing with measurements for a size 44. Hope that helps.

50s BECK 999 ワンスター L | SECOND TIME GLORY | ヴィンテージレザージャケット専門店 powered by BASE

1950年代位のアメリカ製BECK 999 ホースハイドワンスターＷライダースになります。「FLYING...

www.secondtimeglory.com

I’ve also seen a listing for one of these in a size 36 with measurements. Let me know if you’re interested in seeing it and I can find it for you.

I have a 60’s one (checkered flag tag) in a 36 and I can tell you that they fit a bit bigger (mostly longer) than Perfectos in the same size from the same time frame.

The Beck northeaster horsehide tag went into the mid 50’s. This tag was mid to late 50’s. You can also tell that by the hardware present on jackets with these tags.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Should I keep this cal? It’s a bit small. View attachment 539042

Keep until you find a Long size one. There are long sized Cals, I've seen them. But regular length ones are all short from what I've seen, 20" front zipper, 24" back with the beaver tail, 22.5" without beaver tail.

 

[semolina_pilchard]

Here’s a link to a sold listing with measurements for a size 44. Hope that helps.

http://[URL]https://www.secondtimeglory.com/items/22372714

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I’ve also seen a listing for one of these in a size 36 with measurements. Let me know if you’re interested in seeing it and I can find it for you.

I have a 60’s one (checkered flag tag) in a 36 and I can tell you that they fit a bit bigger (mostly longer) than Perfectos in the same size from the same time frame.

The Beck northeaster horsehide tag went into the mid 50’s. This tag was mid to late 50’s. You can also tell that by the hardware present on jackets with these tags.

Thanks for the link and clarification. The measurements there seem small for a 44, I wonder if they just guessed it was a 44 or if it actually had the size tag. Or maybe the 40s/50s jackets fit smaller than the 60s jackets. Or maybe they measured it a certain way and got smaller measurements

I’ve found one that may fit me, but the seller is unresponsive. I may give up on it since the 44 measurements mean the one I found would be smaller, but I really want it

 

[jeo]

Thanks for the link and clarification. The measurements there seem small for a 44, I wonder if they just guessed it was a 44 or if it actually had the size tag. Or maybe the 40s/50s jackets fit smaller than the 60s jackets. Or maybe they measured it a certain way and got smaller measurements

I’ve found one that may fit me, but the seller is unresponsive. I may give up on it since the 44 measurements mean the one I found would be smaller, but I really want it

The first Beck 999 came out in 1951. The first version looked different than the ones we’re talking about.

I think the size was estimated based on measurements which I realize won’t help you since I’m assuming the listing you’re interested in just has the size tag listed with no measurements?

 

[dudewuttheheck]

Should I keep this cal? It’s a bit small. View attachment 539042

I agree with @MrProper . It looks good to me and it looks like you csn zip it up just fine. If it's comfortable, then I'd definitely keep it.

 

[Canuck Panda]

There is a size 42 Beck on Japan auction now. Seller claims 57cm P2P. But the jacket looks like it has lost all its elastics and the P2P measurement could be taken by pulling (with the action back at its full extension). My best guess is that the measurement is similar to a current 613/618 in the same tag size. They fit slim but works. I have 618 in 42 and 613US in 44, and P2P without stretching is 21.5" and 22.5" respectively.

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/d471119714?lang=en&rc=yaucc

This jacket is also on Ebay for more money but with Ebay buyer protection and ease of purchase:

Vintage 1940 1950 Beck 999 One Star Leather Double Riders Jacket Mens L Size | eBay

Condition : .

www.ebay.com

I wish they make a repro version with the old stitching.

 

[Rich22]

What is this part of a jacket called? Waist band? Skirt? Belt? And why is it almost always tucked under the jacket, like in brown here, rather than attached on top of the black jacket? You only tend to see the seam of the 'belt' on top on trucker jackets. Thanks

 

[Canuck Panda]

What is this part of a jacket called? Waist band? Skirt? Belt? And why is it almost always tucked under the jacket, like in brown here, rather than attached on top of the black jacket? You only tend to see the seam of the 'belt' on top on trucker jackets. Thanks

I call them bottom band. There are also ones with french stitching. Like the Flat head jacket in WYWT thread.

 

[Bluechel]

Does anyone know if a repro of this old Vanson swedish style jacket is being made by anyone? Man that is a cool looking jacket

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Looks great, what do these tend to cost?

 

[newtojackets]

Anyone familiar with Hein Gericke? What were there jackets like? Where were they made?

 

[semolina_pilchard]

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There is a size 42 Beck on Japan auction now. Seller claims 57cm P2P. But the jacket looks like it has lost all its elastics and the P2P measurement could be taken by pulling (with the action back at its full extension). My best guess is that the measurement is similar to a current 613/618 in the same tag size. They fit slim but works. I have 618 in 42 and 613US in 44, and P2P without stretching is 21.5" and 22.5" respectively.

http://[URL]https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/d471119714?lang=en&rc=yaucc

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This jacket is also on Ebay for more money but with Ebay buyer protection and ease of purchase:

http://[URL]https://www.ebay.com/itm/324514536797

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I wish they make a repro version with the old stitching.

Thanks. I had found a 40 so it would definitely be too small. Based on the measurements 618/613 measurements I need a 42 at least, but the one on yahoo isn't in great condition.

 

[semolina_pilchard]

The first Beck 999 came out in 1951. The first version looked different than the ones we’re talking about.

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I think the size was estimated based on measurements which I realize won’t help you since I’m assuming the listing you’re interested in just has the size tag listed with no measurements?

That's right yeah, doesn't even show the tag size, just states it's a 40. If it fit would me I'd buy it, but the seller doesn't respond so I will have to leave it alone. Thanks for the useful information!

 

[Bluechel]

Anyone familiar with Hein Gericke? What were there jackets like? Where were they made?

Indonesia, Korea, perhaps Germany? There are some great ones, like the Dakar...but it's case by case. Certainly made for real world use mostly.

 

[newtojackets]

Indonesia, Korea, perhaps Germany? There are some great ones, like the Dakar...but it's case by case. Certainly made for real world use mostly.

I saw this one which caught my eye. Any insight you could offer?