45" necktie?

[Tommy]

don't be afraid to take all the length you can get, and tuck the short end in your shirt between the top and second button. who cares! live dangerously. Anything Goes.

 

[Widebrim]

Repeat, why not try a small knot with a 48" tie you already own and compare the difference in length to when it's tied with a four-in-hand? That would give you a pretty good idea of what a 45' tie will look like. Here's a diagram of the small knot . . . it's super easy:

That's the knot that I use with most of my Bold Look ties.

 

[Guttersnipe]

That's the knot that I use with most of my Bold Look ties.

If you watch closely you'll notice that actors often use this knot or a half windsor when they put on a tie onscreen. Usually, if the scene in one in which the character is frazzled, mad, or in a hurry, they use this one. . .

 

[Widebrim]

If you watch closely you'll notice that actors often use this knot or a half windsor when they put on a tie onscreen. Usually, if the scene in one in which the character is frazzled, mad, or in a hurry, they use this one. . .

So what does that say about me??:eeek:lol Yeah, I have noticed that...

 

[Tomasso]

The Four-in-Hand looks much better IRL......

 

[Guttersnipe]

The Four-in-Hand looks much better IRL......

I disagree. That's an entirely subjective statement which depends depends solely on personal aesthetics.

Four-in-hand knots tie asymmetrical, which usually bothers me, so I rarely use them. One thing I learned from my grandpa, who being the son of a haberdasher/tailor and son-in-law to a mens department store owner, was a snazzy dresser extraordinaire, is that different tie knots are suited of different situations and occasions. Here's some small knots IRL:

With a standard spread collar on a bold-look time

With a narrow-spread dagger collar, on a mid 30's tie/suit (you cannot get the small bud of a knot look with a windsor of four-in-hand)

Here's an example of when I would choose to use a four-in-hand: wider spread collar, mid 30's suit with a thicker brocaded 30's tie

 

[Tomasso]

I disagree. That's an entirely subjective statement which depends depends solely on personal aesthetics.

Reread my post. I'm referring to the difference between a photo and an illustration in depicting the knot. I am not commenting on the appropriateness of the knot.

 

[Guttersnipe]

Yeah, the small doesn't work for thick modern ties like the one in the picture you posted, which is why I post photo-illustrations of what it looks like with vintage ties to contrast what I thought to be a misleading post. Saying the four-in-hand look better IRL depends entirely on the situation. Modern stuffed ties basically all intended to be ties with a four-in-hand. It's like saying that because dress shoes don't work for playing basketball they're no good at all.

I was trying to show folks that there are other "vintage" knots that can be used with vintage ties. In the context of this thread the OP asked about whether a 45" tie would work with his 14 /2" neck, so I suggested him trying a another knot, which uses up much less length and was commonly used in an era when ties were especially short . . .

 

[Baron Kurtz]

what in hell does IRL mean?

 

[Tomasso]

In Real Life......Jeez, will you get with it already.....

 

[repeatclicks]

So uh... yeah guys, that necktie is on its way, I think I will go with the small knot as I am not a fan of the four in hands' asymmetrical knot. I think we can call this thread closed...

 

[repeatclicks]

Tie Received

Well, the tie made it safe and sound, and must have grown 4 inches along the way, as it actually measures 49", not 45. I even asked her twice to measure it, and she swore it was 45 inches. Time to get a new measuring tape....

That's a good thing though, and the tie is KILLER in person!

 

[Widebrim]

Or maybe she needs glasses...At any rate, that length would likely peg it as late-'40s.

 

[John in Covina]

Maybe she thought she should not count 4 inches because that was what was taken up by the knot?:eusa_doh: