1920s suits

[Fastuni]

Distinctive sideburns were quite fashionable in 1920-40's Spain/Portugal (and probably also Latin-American countries). At least quite noticeable on images of the Spanish Civil War for example. Could be a "macho" thing.

Rather curiously I noticed that on German fashion illustrations from the late 20's to early 30's waiters (and only them) often sport sideburns.

Valentino's SB Peak Lapel suit with bow-tie BTW is quite smashing.

 

[herringbonekid]

waistcoat designed by Fortunato Depero, Italian futurist, 1923-4:

 

[Fastuni]

Futurific! I'd gladly wear that - only it ought to show more shirt and tie.

 

[herringbonekid]

yes, the tie space ('V-zone') is strangely cut.

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

Ah yes. I remember a picture od some futurist guys wearing waistcoats like this. I tried to google it but it's only on cutter and tailor and unlinkable.

It's a shame those futurist got involved with the italian fascist. They could have been the italian version of DADA instead. But no! They decided to follow El Douche.

 

[Fastuni]

It's a shame those futurist got involved with the italian fascist.

Given the positive and glorifying attitude of pre-WW1 Italian futurists towards war, destruction and violence, it's not that surprising. Nice artworks and designs though.^^

 

[Two Types]

Agreed. 'Nose-diving on the City' by Tullio Crali is probably my favourite painting:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=No...p=17&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:82&biw=1024&bih=641

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

Given the positive and glorifying attitude of pre-WW1 Italian futurists towards war, destruction and violence, it's not that surprising. Nice artworks and designs though.^^

Many german artists enlisted for WW1 in the same spirit and came back as broken men. If you compare their work before and after the war you will see the big difference. George Grosz, Otto Dix, Max Beckmann...
But yes, the futurist art is nice to look at.
Sorry for OT. To make it up...Here is a photo postcard from John Heartfield to Otto Dix 1920

John Heartfield, Eva (Peter) Grosz, George Grosz, Otto Schmalhausen

And here is a Man Ray pic with members in the Bureau central de recherches surréalistes, 1924

 

[Qirrel]

Ah yes. I remember a picture od some futurist guys wearing waistcoats like this. I tried to google it but it's only on cutter and tailor and unlinkable.

You could just copy the picture?

 

[Two Types]

Futurist Waistcoats

 

[Fastuni]

Since we are on the futurist trip now:

Futurist suits from the 1910's (scroll down the blog-post):

http://centrefortheaestheticrevolut.../giacomo-balla-il-giardino-futurista-and.html

An Italian blog has a photo taken at an exhibition:

Futurist suit (here described as 1930), waistcoats (1920's) and a dress.

 

[herringbonekid]

more crooks, all early 20s (apart from one from 1926):

 

[Two Types]

HBK: how much do you like Hector McBride Ramsay's jacket?

It looks just like somethig you'd like to copy.

 

[herringbonekid]

TT, i like it a lot - how many 17 year olds today are dressed like that ? - although at 4 buttons it's a little high buttoning for me.
one thing i've noticed about these early 20s Australian suits is that they have a narrow shoulder width, but quite a bit of wadding in the sleevehead (which in many cases has turned a bit lumpy).

 

[Metatron]

On futurist clothes:

''Futurist Manifesto of Men's Clothing
by Giacomo Balla
Manuscript. 1913

We Futurists, in those brief gaps between our great struggles for renewal, have spent the time discussing, as is our wont, very many subjects. For quite some time now we have been convinced that today's clothes, while they may be somewhat simplified to suit certain modern requirements, are still atrociously passéist.

WE MUST DESTROY ALL PASSÉIST CLOTHES, and everything about them which is tight-fitting, colourless, funereal, decadent, boring and unhygienic. As far as materials are concerned, we must abolish: wishywashy, pretty-pretty, gloomy, and neutral colours, along with patterns composed of lines, checks and spots. In cut and design: the abolition of static lines, all uniformities such as ridiculous turn-ups, vents, etc. Let us finish with the humiliating and hypocritical custom of wearing mourning. Our crowded streets, our theatres and cafés are all imbued with a depressingly funereal tonality, because clothes are made only to reflect the gloomy and dismal moods of today's passéists.

WE MUST INVENT FUTURIST CLOTHES, hap-hap-hap-hap-happy clothes, daring clothes with brilliant colours and dynamic lines. They must be simple, and above all they must be made to last for a short time only in order to encourage industrial activity and to provide constant and novel enjoyment for our bodies. USE materials with forceful MUSCULAR colours - the reddest of reds, the most purple of purples, the greenest of greens, intense yellows, orange, vermilion - and SKELETON tones of white, grey and black. And we must invent dynamic designs to go with them and express them in equally dynamic shapes: triangles, cones, spirals, ellipses, circles, etc. The cut must incorporate dynamic and asymmetrical lines, with the left-hand sleeve and left side of a jacket in circles and the right in squares. And the same for waistcoats, stockings, topcoats, etc. The consequent merry dazzle produced by our clothes in the noisy streets, which we shall have transformed with our FUTURIST architecture, will mean that everything will begin to sparkle like the glorious prism of a jeweler’s gigantic glass-front, and all around us we shall find acrobatic blocks of colours set out like the following wordshapes:

Coffeecomhou Rosegreebastocap transpomotocar legcutshop blueblackwhitehouses aerocigarend skyroofliftyellight anomoviesphot barbebbenpurp.

Human beings, until now, have dressed (more or less) in black mourning.
We are fighting against:
(a) the timidity and symmetry of colours, colours which are arranged in wishy-washy patterns of idiotic spots and stripes;
(b) all forms of lifeless attire which make man feel tired, depressed, miserable and sad, and which restrict movement producing a triste wanness;
(c) so-called 'good taste' and harmony, which weaken the soul and take the spring out of the step.

We want Futurist clothes to be comfortable and practical
Dynamic
Aggressive
Shocking
Energetic
Violent
Flying (i.e. giving the idea of flying, rising and running)
Peppy
Joyful
Illuminating (in order to have light even in the rain)
Phosphorescent
Lit by electric lamps.

Pattern changes should be available by pneumatic dispatch; in this way anyone may change his clothes according to the needs of mood. Available modifications will include:
Loving
Arrogant
Persuasive
Diplomatic
Unitonal
Multitonal
Shaded
Polychrome
Perfumed.

As a result we shall have the necessary variety of clothes, even if the people of a given city lack the imagination themselves. The happiness of our Futurist clothes will help to spread the kind of good humour aimed at by my great friend PaIazzeschi in his manifesto against sadness.

Shortly to appear: a Futurist manifesto on Women's Clothing''

They would have hated the Fedora lounge.

 

[Two Types]

Here are some suit adverts from the 1920-1921 catalogue by Eatons, a Canadian mail order company:

the suit on the bottom right has some fancy pockets:

 

[herringbonekid]

the suit on the bottom right has some fancy pockets:

those seem to be hangers-on from the bizarre pocket styles that happened around 1915, such as this sort of thing:

...on equally odd shaped suits.


thanks for posting the images.

 

[Two Types]

I will be posting lots more images from the catalogue on other threads: balmoral boots, hats, dog fur coats, work shirts etc. So keep an eye out for them.

 

[Two Types]

I have just noticed that a couple of the suits from the Eatons catalogue are referred to as 'semi-novelty' suits. What do you think this refers to?

 

[herringbonekid]

TT, two of the suits in question are conservative in cut, so i think it's simply a term for 'novelty' stripe fabric or other unusual design fabric. the same way they used the word 'fancy' as in 'fancy stripe'.