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1890's-1900's early hat manufacture HAWES (Hawes Von Gal) HAT CO

DaveProc

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Ken O

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Hello All,

New to the forum and placed my first post to this thread, it seemed like the right place.

I found you all after researching information about a Hawes Von Gal Derby I found at a thrift shop. Someone on this thread did a ton of research and I thank you. After reviewing the data on this thread and on the web I realized the derby could be around 100yrs old, which I found hard to believe. I was wondering if anyone here could help me confirm an approximate age on the hat. Here are the details I have and I will also provide some pics. Thank you in advance for any additional info that can be provided.

The hat is a Black or Grey, 6 7/8, Vented Derby, manufactured by Hawes, von Gal incorporated Danbury, Conn.
The Hat Band has two imprints - "Fine Quality von Gal made Hat" and "Hawes, von Gal inc. New York, Boston, Chicago".
It has a Hawes, von Gal style number tag but I cant make out the number, it could be 1828, 7828 or something else.
It also has a combination Hawes von Gal trade mark tag and a (misspelled) store tag from Wm. Argersinge(r), Johnston, N.Y.".
There is another "To duplicate mention" tag with the number 6870 and a tag with the numbers "(5 ' 4x2 ' 4)"
There is what I think is a union hatters tag as well.

Does anyone have dditional info or an idea of the age? Condition seems great if the hat is almost a century or older.
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Steve1857

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Hello All,

New to the forum and placed my first post to this thread, it seemed like the right place.

I found you all after researching information about a Hawes Von Gal Derby I found at a thrift shop. Someone on this thread did a ton of research and I thank you. After reviewing the data on this thread and on the web I realized the derby could be around 100yrs old, which I found hard to believe. I was wondering if anyone here could help me confirm an approximate age on the hat. Here are the details I have and I will also provide some pics. Thank you in advance for any additional info that can be provided.

The hat is a Black or Grey, 6 7/8, Vented Derby, manufactured by Hawes, von Gal incorporated Danbury, Conn.
The Hat Band has two imprints - "Fine Quality von Gal made Hat" and "Hawes, von Gal inc. New York, Boston, Chicago".
It has a Hawes, von Gal style number tag but I cant make out the number, it could be 1828, 7828 or something else.
It also has a combination Hawes von Gal trade mark tag and a (misspelled) store tag from Wm. Argersinge(r), Johnston, N.Y.".
There is another "To duplicate mention" tag with the number 6870 and a tag with the numbers "(5 ' 4x2 ' 4)"
There is what I think is a union hatters tag as well.

Does anyone have dditional info or an idea of the age? Condition seems great if the hat is almost a century or older.
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Welcome Ken O. Your Hawes von Gal Derby is easily 100 years old and an excellent find. Can you please post it in "The Bowler or Derby Hat" thread. It definitely deserves a place there, too.
 
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Thanks for responding and supprting what I though about the age.

I will absolutely post this in the Bowler and Derby Hat thread.

Ken O.

Just replied to your post in the Derby thread... congratulations on finding this. Very few hats from Hawes Von Gal appear on the vintage market, though their advertisements are plentiful. Some great new additions to this thread were posted recently by Daveproc. The company clearly went through rough times as the Von Gal Hat Co. during and shortly after the WWI period.
As mentioned in the other thread, I would guess your derby to be pre-WWI, c.1910 or thereabouts. Thanks for sharing it here.
 

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