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  1. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Vi, That appears to be wanna-be tough guys trying to impress themselves; which is genuinely scary and has the potential for real trouble depending on your response. That type gets off on making people squirm, they only behave when they recognize there are real tough guys present or the...
  2. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Better to back down and/or avoid the situation properly (as you did since you are still with us) and then come to terms with how it made you feel and why. Many people get themselves hurt because they have internalized that they need to "stand their ground" or "assert their rights" in...
  3. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Conversely, if you have confidence in yourself you have no need to rise to challenges from puerile, aggressive thugs. You just ignore them and go on about your life. Personally I feel no need to respond to threat displays or insults from wanna-be tough guys trying to impress their friends or...
  4. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    I see an "American Justice" commemorative bat holder in the making. A noble eagle in flight against a background of Old Glory, carrying the bat in its talons, a single perfect tear on its cheek reflecting the image of the fallen Twin Towers. When the bat is removed, the strains of Lee...
  5. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    The question is would that responding force be moral and legal? I wouldn't hit someone for knocking off my hat. It's just property, hitting someone would be unjustified assault under the law and I have nothing to prove to the kind of punk who would do that. That kind of activity is...
  7. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi (An Autobiography OR The story of my experiments with truth, by M.K. Gandhi, p.238)...
  8. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Oh I agree we do have to train to be non-violent, if anything it takes more effort. That said, without examining the reality of violent persons and violent interaction I would suggest you can't prepare to be non-violent properly. (yes there is hard, un-biased, experiential and scientifically...
  9. carebear

    Show us your Guns!

    Shop in town has a Park'd Victory Model M&P and a Colt New Service Army .38 in the case. The Smith is $295 I think, the Colt is closer to $500.
  10. carebear

    Fishing for Machineguns

    No, that machinegun is a .30 cal. Look at the size of the feed tray versus the 20mm round on the table. If anything is the 20mm it's the big thing on the edge in the upper right next to the mortar. That has a pretty sizeable looking barrel on it. Not a Lahti or a Solothurn though.
  11. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    You are assuming flight is an option. It may be, but if it isn't and you have no other options then you are again faced with depending on the good will of a person who has already proven they are willing to violate your home, with you in it, to not harm you. The burgler may be between you...
  13. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    "Turning the other cheek" per the bible means accept a verbal insult, it does not mean to not defend yourself. The Commandment is properly translated "Thou shall not murder" (kill without justification) not "Thou shall not kill". Nothing Jesus said denied the right to defend oneself with...
  14. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    Several flaws with that. First, you are "what-if"-ing that she or anyone else would "put herself between him and his escape". There's no evidence in what Lizzie presented that that was the actual case in the actual incident under discussion. "What-if" games are generally useless as there...
  15. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    You hit on the key point. That text mentioned people who self-righteously claim "violence is never the answer" or "never solves anything". Those absolutes fail on several levels. Whether violence is proper, necessary or effective depends on the situation and from whose perspective you...
  16. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    A gentleman can only claim to fight back if he didn't play a part in initiating the violence in the first place. You can be assertive in your own defense without being "violent", but once you cross the line to aggresive and rude, in the view of the other guy, you have initiated the violent...
  17. carebear

    Show us your Guns!

    That would be an interesting side-by-side comparison, looking at the lockwork. It's old enough to be worn in, but were there noticiable differences in the interior fit and finish? Actually I guess that might depend on the age of the Mdl. 10 as well.
  19. carebear

    Show us your Guns!

    Beautiful revolver. I assume you used a twisting, prying motion to remove the sideplate? :D
  20. carebear

    Fishing for Machineguns

    Just as a point of clarification, ATF can't say those are "illegal to own". They can't prove in court they aren't on the registry and thus transferable as it has been documented, in court, to be incomplete and error ridden. Not that I'm joining to claim ownership or anything. Oh, I...
  21. carebear

    The Elks. The Moose. The VFW. AMVETS. Eagles. Where did they come from?

    One issue the VFW's had for a while after Vietnam (until a few years back)was the limited number of servicemen who met the criteria for membership. We didn't have massive numbers of men actually fight overseas for almost 20 years. For example, I was in the Marine Corps Reserve from '91 to...
  22. carebear

    When does a gentleman fight back?

    For verbally managing inter-personal relations with both friends and strangers I recommend the following book (website as well). http://www.verbaljudo.com/ This course has been adopted by many law enforcement agencies in the US as it allows for de-escalation without submission. Works just...
  23. carebear

    What Was The Last Movie You Watched?

    And McCarthy doesn't write neat, tied-up endings in anything.

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