The previous post about the "MINT" '43 jacket mentioned that the women's top pockets were different.
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/m-65-field-jacket.78722/post-3106046
The WWII U.S. trend was for women's uniforms to have false breast pockets (see the previous links on WAC/WAVES)...
Congratulations on the better fit of the '43.
From earlier:
"The '43 women's version essentially was still being made in the 1970s at least, in a nylon blend (like the '65 shell is a nylon blend), without "M-1943" on the tag."
I haven't seen exact numbers for dates and total production.
The...
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Thank you very much for the illuminating observations. That the USN was still using cotton thread in 1969 is the kind of detail that fascinates me.
One basic question that I'm still not clear on is whether the last button before pewter is identical to a 1940 button.
You're welcome.
You might want to peruse these while awaiting delivery:
http://www.blitzkriegbaby.de/waac/waac4ba.htm
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/wwii-waves-spars-the-best-dressed-women-in-the-world.114772/
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The initial post was indeed about past practices but you did not overlook the "differentiated" part because it wasn't there yet. Your quick-draw replies were overlapping with my edits. I will absorb the recent posts before I comment further. Thank you.
It is difficult to know what measurement variations there were in manufacturing, among contractors, over years, plus whether any used jacket was shrunken more, less, or not at all, plus (as you said) a seller's margin of error in measurement.
The cost of the '43 (a whole jacket) might be spent...
To stay focused: The question is not what someone should do now. The question is what the Navy did then.
Start in 1940.
What was the button and what year did the Navy stop using it on new coats?
What was the thread and what year did the Navy stop using it on new coats?
What was the sewing...
One consolation from those data is that the smallest M-65 sits lower on the currently smallest allowed woman than the 2nd-smallest M-65 sits on you, since you are 3in above the minimum but the 2nd-smallest M-65 is only 1.5in longer than the smallest.
The drawstring allows adjusting the girth...
Thank you very much for those details so far.
However, I thought WWII was cotton thread.
At the moment, I am interested in the 1940s and 1950s buttons, so the pewter buttons can wait until another day.
You might want to check changing recruiting standards of minimum height for a clue about possible changes to available M-65 sizes. The post-draft shift to recruitment of women, plus additional possible changes to standards to meet recruitment quotas, might be reflected in M-65 contracted sizes...
For the kersey peacoats, differentiated by year or label-type or other feature:
1. What are the correct buttons?
2. What is the correct button thread?
3. What is the correct button-sewing pattern?
Thank you.
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The M-1943 women's jacket (picture below) has different top pockets than the men's version.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276354785200
http://www.usww2uniforms.com/370E.html
You might prefer the M-65's grandfather, the 1943 field jacket:
1. The business-suit-type collar looks stylish, particularly combined with the drawstring-cinched waist.
2. My impression is that the '43 weighs less than the '65, without the removable liner in either, but I have no hard numbers...
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