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Bah. Let a real statesman show you how it's done.
C-dot said:HOW can you wear elastic bottom sweatpants with a shirt and tie?
Poor Ronnie, he used to be such a snappy lookin' guy.
Edward said:As for the politicians generally, it's a difficult line. If they only ever appear in tailored suits, they will be criticised for being out of touch with the common man; if they attempt to dress down, they will be pilloried for looking daft, or for lacking gravitas - see above for examples. It seems to me that there will be situations where it is entirely appropriate for world leaders to dress down, including in denim, and situations where it won't.
That all said, if they do casual well then I have no problem with that in appropriate circumstances.
LizzieMaine said:Bah. Let a real statesman show you how it's done.
Marc Chevalier said:.
He's about to kick that dog with statesmanlike aplomb.
Carlisle Blues said:Excellent point Edward. When I was starting out, I was working a 24 hour per day document production project for a "white shoe" law firm in Manhattan. At approximately 3 AM I saw the managing partner, who was a leader my profession, approach me. He asked me why on earth I was wearing shoes that were spit shined, a starched french cuff shirt and a very nice suit with suspenders. I answered because I am an attorney. He explained to me that an attorney may work 24 hours per day thinking about cases etc etc., however, the attorney is still a human being.
He said people hire you for your brains not your clothes unless you are going to court or seeing clients. I have not only adopted that perspective and used it in my own practice including support staff and associates, but, I apply that perspective to elected officials as well especially after working with some; even presidential candidates.
The standard I apply to the official speaks to their ability to govern not to dress as if they are in office 24 per day. To expect a person to wear a suit 24 hours or look "official" per day is absurd.
Edward said:"White shoe" = .... trainers? Not familiar with the term....
Sounds like your place operates pretty much the same approach to dress as we have in my Department at the University. I'm one of the very few never seen without a tie, or at least a cravat (actually, I'm the onlu one ever wears a cravat.... lol ). I actually feel that the relaxed dress code paradoxically gives me more freedom to dress up to the degree I tend to! Nice also that, there being no stict requirement of a suit or sports jacket, I have the freedom to wear a leather jacket with a collar and tie in appropriate weather / circumstances.... I like to think of it as a sort of 'forties casual' look.
High Pockets said:"What one generation tolerates,.....the next accepts."
Carlisle Blues said:Oh no it is too late.............
Former President Reagan reads opinions from disgruntled constituents regarding his manner of dress.
DapperDuck said:The look is growing on me. lol lol lol lol lol lol What a great photo!!! Thanks!
QUOTING FROM THE ARTICLE:
Few items of clothing speak as loudly, to the positive or negative, as a pair of jeans. As with tuxedos and Hawaiian shirts, wear them right (on the latter, only to a luau if you're a mainlander), or not at all.
High Pockets said:"What one generation tolerates,.....the next accepts."
Carlisle Blues said:White-shoe firm is a phrase used to describe the leading professional services firms in America. In my case it was a law firm.
I did not properly explain myself. The "uniform" of the day is a suit befitting a legal professional. However, the exception includes, after hours.... Fridays where there is no Court; business casual is fine then..jeans after hours are even better.
My office was decorated with beautiful sconces from the art deco era, my office leather wing chairs; the whole atmosphere spoke to a very traditional practice.
Dressing as such was the rule.
Spitfire said:I have more trust in a guy in a pair of worn out levis than in a guy in a brand new suit.
Miss Neecerie said:This.
And if them being in jeans means they forget about some of the BS posturing....and actually -accomplish- things...I could care less...
They could have nude meetings if they got work done.
Carlisle Blues said:^^^
According to William Safire, the phrase derives from "white bucks", a type of laced suede or buckskin shoe with a red sole, long popular among upper-class New Englanders, especially at Ivy League colleges.