Woodstock?

[Spitfire]

...but the label still stick.

 

[nobodyspecial]

My goodness - lighten up folks. It was a landmark in the history of music.
And - to the joy of some of you - it will NEVER happen again.

Peace, love and harmony.

Spot on! A great deal of musical talent was on stage those days. I was 6 at the time, too young to have gone to the show, now I'm old enough to appreciate the magnitude of the event.

 

[Brad Bowers]

Whoa! Take a listen to that music again. When I hear Santana's 'Soul Sacrifice' I can't stand still!

Or, Ten Years After 'I'm Going Home' - Alvin Lee's guitar!

Or Janis Joplin...and the Who...and Crosby, Still, and Nash, or Ritchie Havens, Joe Cocker, Arlo Guthrie..... :eusa_clap like 'em or not, these were classics of the era.

Me. Not playing 'Soul Sacrifice'!

-dixon 'hippie' cannon

Sorry, I refuse to listen to this so-called music. Same with this hip-hop rap crap. Modern music is just another sypmtom of the downfall of civilization, and it's accelerated since the '60s and their insidious ideals have permeated society.

It's my position, I'm not budging. I'll hate that era until my dying day, and fight it with everything I've got.

Brad

 

[nobodyspecial]

Sorry, I refuse to listen to this so-called music. Same with this hip-hop rap crap. Modern music is just another sypmtom of the downfall of civilization, and it's accelerated since the '60s and their insidious ideals have permeated society.

It's my position, I'm not budging. I'll hate that era until my dying day, and fight it with everything I've got.

Brad

That is so very over-the-top. To each their own.

 

[Brad Bowers]

That is so very over-the-top. To each their own.

You should see how worked I up get over flip-flops in public.lol

Brad

 

[LizzieMaine]

Sorry, I refuse to listen to this so-called music. Same with this hip-hop rap crap. Modern music is just another sypmtom of the downfall of civilization, and it's accelerated since the '60s and their insidious ideals have permeated society.

It's my position, I'm not budging. I'll hate that era until my dying day, and fight it with everything I've got.

Brad

I've never gotten the 60s-music thing either, but hey, to each his own and all. But for the record, Charlie Christian was the greatest guitarist who ever lived, with Eddie Lang a close second.

 

[Edward]

What strikes me most is hippies whole being was about anti-establishment and against materialism. Isn't it strange that the hippie generation spawned the most material generation.

Well, as a wise man once said, "Never trust a hippy."

It does seem a great irony to me to see the legacy of the original Woodstock festival being commodified, packaged and consumed in this manner - surely the very epitome of everything it was supposed to stand against? I wonder whether the original Woodsotck organisers benefit from this, or is it 'fair game' as a historic event? (Could go either way, I imagine, though something tells me there must be rights and trade marks involved, remembering the major commercial enterprise that was Woodstock II on the 25th anniversary). Still, it's hardly the first time it has happened - c/f the commercialisation of Che Guevara's image, or those mass-produced, screen-printed T shirts with the anarchy symbol on them that one finds at every cheap market in london, and beyond...

With regards to Jimi Hendrix, no-one before or, arguably, since, developed and pushed the boundaries of the electric guitar as far as did he. Genius on the level of Mozart. A considerable proportion of the other hallowed rok stars of that era were, and continue to be, absurdly over-rated, not least by a generation convinced that only they had the ability to change the world, and that their music was best. But hey.... plus ca change, plus la meme chose, eh?

 

[nobodyspecial]

You should see how worked I up get over flip-flops in public.lol

Brad

It might be best to stick with decaf.

 

[carouselvic]

There are so many styles of guitar that to say anyone person is "the best" is more opinion than fact. TLH

 

[nobodyspecial]

There are so many styles of guitar that to say anyone person is "the best" is more opinion than fact. TLH

I would say that is true for all instruments and in so many cases there are top notch musicians who remain relatively unknown . For example, Dean McGraw is a Minneapolis guitar player who is truly amazing to watch live. McGraw plays locally with a variety of groups as well as solo, but I doubt he's known outside of a small circle.

 

[Tiller]

Thank you Nathan. I am allways surprised when somebody as young as you, can label a whole generation. That easy! Worldwide!! Amazing!!!!

That's a bit of an interesting statement, considered the entire hippie movement did the same thing "Don't trust anyone over 30". I always find it interesting how annoyed some of those old hippies can get when younger people reject their ideals (Not saying your an old hippie but I've seen it happen more then once on campus. I always find it interesting to see a Professor in his 60's telling someone in his 20's "You just don't get it man! You just don't get my generation." lol.)

Like I said before though, as far as how "nostalgic" people my age get over the late 60's well that dog doesn't hunt from what I've seen. We didn't live through it, and most of the hippies became either our parents or our grandparents/aunts/uncles, becoming the new establishment they claimed they hated, I just don't see 20 somethings today dropping out of college to wear raggy clothes, and listen to bad pop music. My generation is far to materialistic (even today with the recession) to even come close to what the hippies attempted to become. If anything we have alot more in common with the hippie's parents, and the flappers of the 20's. As much as some members of my generation may complain about it we are anything but anti-capitalistic. My generation lives for things (whether it's laptops, I-Pods, gaming systems, or what have you).

As far as music, some of it was ok, but imo besides Motown, and it being the Rat Packs "middle years" I don't have much interest in it. The whole Peter, Paul, and Mary crap is some of the worst music I've heard in my life. As is most of the music from that sub culture (Hendrix being an exception in my book, since he is usually seen as a part of "hippiedom").

 

[Spitfire]

Good point, Tiller. But please observe that I said that being 60+ today. We all learn down the road.

 

[Dixon Cannon]

Time has told. It's been forty years since that concert in the mud and the boomers' reputation as spoiled, self-indulgent, hedonistic sell-outs isn't likely to get any better. The only good press that that generation is likely to get is through the histories they themselves write. It's not reflective of the entire group, but those labels still stick.

Yeh! My father used to say the same things about Beatniks. My grandfather said the same things about "Zoot Suiters". It goes on and on, generation after generation. How 'bout those "rappers" though!? Yeh! How 'bout them!?lol

 

[Doctor Strange]

I have been trying really hard to avoid posting on this thread. I wasn't a hippie, per se, though I'm the right age to have been, and I was/am a fan of the music and philosophy of those years. The point is, I dig both Charlie Christian AND Jerry Garcia.

All I want to say is that I wish we would try and avoid grotesque generalizations. The sixties produced a lot of worthwhile stuff, along with a whole lot of excessive nonsense. Some of the artistic expression and societal loosening was for the good; some was a dead end. Much of it was very akin to the new music and radical thinking that the youth of the twenties and thirties supported in their times, though nobody now is saying that that "ruined" our society.

Sure, it's ironic that corporate nostalgia has overtaken the old idealism. But since irony and snark is the primary mode of modern culture in nearly everything, why is that worthy of derision? At least we had idealism: my own kids don't seem to really believe in anything... and that's pretty sad.

 

[Foofoogal]

It does seem a great irony to me to see the legacy of the original Woodstock festival being commodified, packaged and consumed in this manner - surely the very epitome of everything it was supposed to stand against?

this was my whole point of the thread. I have always wondered though why Janis sang this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z031l0E_5n4

it was released after she died.

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Why aren't the hippie haters bitching about how badly a number of "the Greatest Generation" raised its children? Or do you think those kids became hippies out of thin air? Sorry, that's not the case. Mom and Dad had lain the groundwork.


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[Foofoogal]

Absolutely Marc, after the depression and the war it was pure indulgence after except in my father's home of course.

Yikes, English teacher.
I used to know all the rules.

<---------exhippie!

 

[Marc Chevalier]

The day the music AND the fashion died.

Fashion was dying as early as 1960, when clothing quality QUICKLY became worse and worse: fewer stitches per inch, more brittle plastic buttons, crappy plastic zippers, polyester blend fabrics that pilled, and on and on. It laid the groundwork for the next decade and a half. And guess what? The company bosses who led the charge downward were from the World War II/Korea generation.


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[Marc Chevalier]

Absolutely Marc, after the depression and the war it was pure indulgence after ...

In many cases, yes. The market (and parents) showered children with tons of toys tied to the programs that Johnny and Sally watched on TV, the new babysitter. Baby boomer kids were sold to as never before ... because there were so many of them! What a market! Many young parents bought into the consumerist hype and misread Dr. Spock to boot. Indulge, indulge, indulge. Big mistake.



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[LizzieMaine]

Absolutely Marc, after the depression and the war it was pure indulgence after except in my father's home of course.

It'd be interesting to do a demographic survey of hippiedom, actually -- how many were spoiled suburban middle class kids versus how many came from rural/urban working-class environments.

My beef with hippiedom has always been that its overall cultural prevalence been greatly exaggerated. For every kid that tuned in, turned on and dropped out, there were many, many who did no such thing, just as the majority of young women in the '20s were not flappers. But the permanent image of the sixties remains the doped-up free-lovin' hippy, instead of the working-class kid who got drafted and went overseas, served uneventfully, came home, and got a job on a loading dock or something. The latter makes for a far-less sensational TV documentary, I guess.

For what it's worth, I never saw a hippy anywhere but on TV until the late '70s. As a kid, I thought they were just made-up characters for Joe Friday to fight.