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John in Covina said:I am at times bewildered by what passes as fashion in the casual sense....
One step up is also to move from t-shirts and henleys to actual collared shirts, whether dress type or even golf shirts. That step tends to take it to a bit more polished level. People that live in t-shirts maybe very casual but it sends a message of not caring much, unless they are into political activism. ...
i_am_the_scruff said:It's their taste. Who cares?
Maybe they care more about raising that child than dressing up for no reason?
You can't look immaculate all the time.
i_am_the_scruff said:Atleast she's warm and isn't going to trip over in 5 inch heels.
MK said:Tim is trying to look disheveled.
With respect, that is SO wrong. I can guarantee that some of the things I wear alot of you wouldn't like at all BUT I am one of the most polite people you could meet and I have good manners.donCarlos said:There are some good points.
However, I´ve noticed that many people here don´t really need to wear vintage clothes, they just try to look their best with vintage inspiration. Many people here are trying to revive the good manners, which goes hand to hand with good clothes.
Because I find it snobbish. I won't deny, sometimes I do look at someone and think "wow, why are they wearing that?" But I wouldn't think about it all day and make a thread about it because at the end of the day, they're appy as themselves, I'm happy as myself. That's all you need.donCarlos said:You write about looking down on people - There is no reason why not to look down on people who are badly or inappropriately dressed. I do it all the time
It's not a choice, I'm just saying. For some people they HAVE to look great all the time and it's really important for them, i'm just saying it's nice that they can relax and they don't feel they have to look great and impress other people all the time. Also, that they are that secure and happy with themselves that they dress how they want and still walk around with their head's held high.MK said:I didn't know it was an either or choice between raising a child and looking presentable.
As for looking immaculate all the time.....on the contrary. Tim is trying to look disheveled.
My comment wasn't about Helena.
So....why are you working so hard to defend apathy...or the contrived appearance of apathy? Interesting position to take.
Personally, I believe that it's their personal taste and that they are just as meticulous about their presentation as Cary Grant was in his. As such, it has a disingenuous nature to it; something of a poor man's spezzatura. I know of gents who grow out their beard stubble to a precise length, in a very calculated effort, to coincide with a high profile event to which they'll be attending .i_am_the_scruff said:It's their taste. Who cares? You can't look immaculate all the time.
LizzieMaine said:Actually, from what I've seen in recent days, slippers are entirely proper to wear to the mall. Preferably with one of those really long-sleeved jackets that buckles in the back.
Tomasso said:Personally, I believe that it's their personal taste and that they are just as meticulous about their presentation as Cary Grant was in his. As such, it has a disingenuous nature to it; something of a poor man's spezzatura. I know of gents who grow out their beard stubble to a precise length, in a very calculated effort, to coincide with a high profile event to which they'll be attending .
**********carter said:
john, I agree with much of your reasoning but have to disagree regarding the ubiquitous t-shirt. No garment in the last 50+ years is more uniquely American in usage and it cuts across gender, age, virtually all social milieu. Nothing looks better, IMHO, with jeans and a bomber or short casual jacket. A t-shirt is the perfect layering garment as well. LONG LIVE the T-SHIRT!
John in Covina said:I think that anyone that purposely goes out in public such as shopping, in pajama bottoms has a distinct lack of regard for those around them as well as themselves.
It's like they are saying: "Screw you, you stupid peons, I am so fabulous that I make SLOTH look good!"
It is a certain narcissistic self value that operates by degrading the value of others around them.
I understand your point, but in the group photo of the Trilateral Commission or a Davos meet you wont see many faux street urchin looks, outside of Bono. And these are the withs/haves.Belegnole said:Those with try to look like those without. Those without try to look like those who have
Paisley said:I'd call the men's look in the above picture poor but trying. They're wearing suits, but they look scruffy. Nobody's shoes are shined. Their jackets are wrinkled at the elbow. The man at the far right looks like he is just wearing an undershirt under his suit.
I think the question is really, "Why is the scruffy look so popular today?" Clothes reflect the times. In the Golden Era, people were ashamed to be poor and nobody took charity who could help it. A weakness was something to be overcome. People tried to put their best foot forward. Today, what might have been called "warts" is now "authenticity." I think it all comes down to "why bother?" and a general lack of seriousness.