Why did you sell your nearly new aero leather jacket(s)?

[NamoAmituofo]

That West Ride CHP - well I’ll be dreaming of its fluffy collar!

Not a fan of bullhide though. I can’t explain why just prefer smooth finish.

I was also looking for a JL super goat for a long time but they just don’t come up for sale.

 

[MrProper]

It’s my bug - my mind associate thickness and weight with… well masculinity?!

Or just call it my human stupidity

Thanks for the explanation. All fine, that's how it should be.

 

[ikonenmagazin]

Interesting threat - as I also have sold two Aeros so far. One, the Bootlegger in front quarter HH, was custom-made and during the breaking-in process the zipper ripped. I got it fixed but then I gained a bit of weight and the jacket was totally uncomfortable immediately. I spent a fortune on this and sold it for half the price to Southeas Asia...
Another one was made of sturdy goat-hide. The Dustbowl. Problem here was: This hide does not really age beautifully, also it never broke in properly. So I also sold this one.
I liked both jackets but they were never really comfortable to wear, even after 2-3 years. And I never regretted to have sold them.

 

[ton312]

I think the thread title is misleading and misses the point of almost every response. It’s not about Aero. It’s about CXL. I mentioned this earlier and it seems to be something largely ignored. Aero offers a variety of hides. CXL is merely one of a multitude. I wouldn’t wear a CXL jacket again no matter who made it! There are also a myriad of CXL leathers, the overdue CXL JL uses for example is absolute mush and very soft. It’s a specific type of CXL that just doesn’t make for a terribly comfortable garment. It just so happens to be a very popular choice for Aero’s customers.

They do look great:

JL’s CXL: (not overdue)

It took some maturity and understanding on my part to realize this simply is not a great garment grade leather. Regardless who made it.

 

[lina]

I have found their sizing inconsistent. So, hard to get the right fit. I don’t mean inconsistent across patterns, but within a given pattern. Just look at their ready to wear page and (often) you’ll see jackets of the same size with pretty significant measurement differences.

 

[Canuck Panda]

That y2 is the ultimate Spongebob jacket, absolutely zero drape in any pic I’ve seen.

https://ameblo.jp/celluloidstaffblog/entry-12828270158.html
theres a fit video half way down, looks like it would take a while to break in for sure, but I also thought it looked ok on this guy considering how thick the leather is.

 

[Aloysius]

That y2 is the ultimate Spongebob jacket, absolutely zero drape in any pic I’ve seen.

No, go look up the jacket embodiment of TFL, that ended up teaching a major lesson to all of us. Look up the "CHL" and "SHL" jackets...

That West Ride CHP - well I’ll be dreaming of its fluffy collar!

Just call Johnson and ask to order a WWL-41 (that's their internal name for that jacket) in their standard smooth cowhide (which I love) with a mouton collar. I got one earlier this year, with a custom pattern at that.

 

[MadCat]

There’s a reason why Italians use lamb leather almost always in their jackets.

That’s all i’m gonna say.

 

[Aloysius]

There’s a reason why Italians use lamb leather almost always in their jackets.

That’s all i’m gonna say.

Not sure what you're suggesting is "Italian" about this. Lambskin is one of the most common everywhere except this forum.

 

[MadCat]

Not sure what you're suggesting is "Italian" about this. Lambskin is one of the most common everywhere except this forum.

Because Italians know fashion, style, quality, comfort etc.

Yea I know i’m kinda off topic but the thread does talk about leather jacket comfort a lot…

 

[Aloysius]

Because Italians know fashion, style, quality, comfort etc.

Italians are routinely terribly dressed and the best dressed Italians try to look English. Indeed many of the most prestigious Italian tailoring houses refuse to use anything but British fabric.

Yea I know i’m kinda off topic but the thread does talk about leather jacket comfort a lot…

Again, lambskin is common everywhere; it's not some Italian preference.

 

[MadCat]

Italians are routinely terribly dressed and the best dressed Italians try to look English. Indeed many of the most prestigious Italian tailoring houses refuse to use anything but British fabric.

Again, lambskin is common everywhere; it's not some Italian preference.

Oh boy…

 

[Aloysius]

Oh boy…

It's simply fact.

Look at the late Gianni Agnelli for instance. His style was essentially modelled on the Duke of Windsor, with some nods to British business practice.

A country flannel look, with a DB configuration much like that favoured by the DoW.

Likewise nice heavy tweeds for cool weather.

This is the stiff stuff, not the Shetlands that have become more popular recently. Also notice that he favours the most English three button jacket configuration.

His protege Luca di Monezemolo hews even more strongly to the English influence, favouring the City look of dark ties with polka dots.

 

[MadCat]

It's simply fact.

Look at the late Gianni Agnelli for instance. His style was essentially modelled on the Duke of Windsor, with some nods to British business practice.

A country flannel look, with a DB configuration much like that favoured by the DoW.
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Likewise nice heavy tweeds for cool weather.

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This is the stiff stuff, not the Shetlands that have become more popular recently. Also notice that he favours the most English three button jacket configuration.

His protege Luca di Monezemolo hews even more strongly to the English influence, favouring the City look of dark ties with polka dots.

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Cars, food, fashion…i’ll choose Italian every time vs English.

I don’t even know where to begin. I am sorry but 99.9% of the world will agree with me. Italians are on top in regards to fashion, style and constructing a garment.

 

[MrProper]

Cars, food, fashion…i’ll choose Italian every time vs English.

I don’t even know where to begin. I am sorry but 99.9% of the world will agree with me. Italians are on top in regards to fashion, style and constructing a garment.

I used to say that Italians are so fashion-conscious and dress so smartly. Six months in southern Italy proved me wrong. And it wasn't outstanding in Milan either. It's just like everywhere else... 80% of people don't think about what they wear.

 

[MadCat]

I used to say that Italians are so fashion-conscious and dress so smartly. Six months in southern Italy proved me wrong. And it wasn't outstanding in Milan either. It's just like everywhere else... 80% of people don't think about what they wear.

There are books written and movies filmed about Italian fashion.

 

[Aloysius]

Cars, food, fashion…i’ll choose Italian every time vs English.

I don’t even know where to begin. I am sorry but 99.9% of the world will agree with me. Italians are on top in regards to fashion, style and constructing a garment.

That means nothing. Millions of people go and watch the Venom movies.

There are books written and movies filmed about Italian fashion.

Okay. And there are hundreds of books about English menswear. Furthermore all of Italian menswear is copied from English menswear, something the Italian houses themselves completely admit. Rubinacci's headquarters is called London House.

The composer Paolo Tosti was a customer of Scholte, tailor to King Edward VIII/the Duke of Windsor, in London and he would send some of his clothes to poor relatives in Rome. They would take them to Caraceni for alterations, and this led to Caraceni learning from them and founding his own house. Caraceni brought together his findings in the form of tailoring manuals in Italian, which were then used by the next generation of Italians like Attolini. Attolini, through his work at Rubinacci, was the father of Neapolitan menswear.

So already you have a line of Savile Row -> Rome -> Naples right there. And that is just one of the many lines of transmission like that.

 

[Marc mndt]

Italians are on top in regards to fashion, style and constructing a garment.

As always there's the exception that proves the rule.

 

[Aloysius]

As always there's the exception that proves the rule.

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Most horsehide is tanned in Italy at that. The Japanese and American operations are rounding errors by comparison.

 

[Marc mndt]

Most horsehide is tanned in Italy at that. The Japanese and American operations are rounding errors by comparison.

True. I was referring to the design and construction. It looks like they tried to copy a 5* lol.