What Size is this Hat?

[Retro Spectator]

I was looking around at hats, and I came upon this hat. I looked for a size, but I couldn't find it. Also, why is there a female mannequin wearing a men's hat?

https://www.etsy.com/listing/228880...llery&ga_search_query=champ&ref=sr_gallery_13

 

[TPD166]

I couldn't get you link to open directly, but I think this is the hat:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/228880...ll&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=CHAMP FEDORA&ref=sr_gallery_9

If it is, based on those crazy measurements, I have no idea - possibly a 22" circumference? I would contact them and ask for the specific measurements you need to determine size - and then be cautious of the their numbers. I've purchased several hats based on measurements only the find they were way off. I'd also ask about size tags and/or ask them to look for tags or markings inside the sweatband (and maybe for some photos of the interior and lining).

 

[WesternHatWearer]

I would guess the hat is between a 7 and 7(1/8).

 

[tropicalbob]

Doesn't that drive you nuts? You'd think that someone who did this regularly would maybe figure out how to size a hat.

 

[Retro Spectator]

Unfortunately, that hat seems to be too tiny for my head. I think I'm a 7 3/8, but I could be wrong.

 

[rogerstg]

I'd contact the seller and ask them to show photos of the backside of the sweatband along with any writing or tags. Sometimes there will be something like a handwritten 3/8, meaning 7 3/8; 1/4 for 7 1/4, etc.

 

[TheDane]

Well, it's obviously the first time the shop-owner sells a gent's hat, so I would wonder more, if he/she could accurately measure a hat

Contact the seller and ask for the length and the width of the crown-opening. Add those two numbers and divide by two. Then you usually get an estimate, closer to the actual size of the hat.

(Length + Width) / 2 ~ Hat size (US)

 

[TPD166]

I just received a hat in the mail that I bought a few days ago. The seller had posted photos of her measuring the inside circumference with a tape measure and she listed it as a 7-1/4 based on her measurements. I could see that tape was not tight and rolled the dice that the hat would be larger and it was - it is either a 7-3/8 or a snug 7-1/2. Usually I don't trust the seller's measurements unless I know they are a "hat person" because they are usually wrong - and in this case, even with the photos, her numbers were not correct. But I think this is the first time it worked to my advantage.

 

[Lean'n'mean]

a gent's hat,

Looks like a lady's hat to me. Something a lady of a certain age would wear on special occassions.

 

[TheDane]

Looks like a lady's hat to me. Something a lady of a certain age would wear on special occassions.

But it is nevertheless a gent's hat. Most gents of a certain age will recognize it as a typical 50s porkpie with a back-bow

 

[TheDane]

TPD166: I recently purchased a Knox 20, that the seller claimed to be 22" in circumference - which translates into somewhere between size 7 and 7-1/8 (US).

I asked her to measure the length and width, and she returned: "8 x 6-1/2" - which translates into a size 7-1/4 (US), or just my size.

When I recieved the hat, it turned out to be very close to a perfect fit for me. The manufacturing label inside, claimed the hat to be a 7-1/2, though!

The moral could be something like: "When buying vintage hats, don't blindly trust circumference-measurements - and don't trust manufacturing labels, either"

When Alan first showed the rule-of-thumb, mentioned above, I didn't buy it. I found it way too "non-mathematical" ... but it has long ago proven it's reliability [huh]

 

[TPD166]

Amen!

TPD166: I recently purchased a Knox 20, that the seller claimed to be 22" in circumference - which translates into somewhere between size 7 and 7-1/8 (US).

I asked her to measure the length and width, and she returned: "8 x 6-1/2" - which translates into a size 7-1/4 (US), or just my size.

When I recieved the hat, it turned out to be very close to a perfect fit for me. The manufacturing label inside, claimed the hat to be a 7-1/2, though!

The moral could be something like: "When buying vintage hats, don't blindly trust circumference-measurements - and don't trust manufacturing labels, either"

When Alan first showed the rule-of-thumb, mentioned above, I didn't buy it. I found it way too "non-mathematical" ... but it has long ago proven it's reliability [huh]

 

[RJR]

I've had good luck asking a potential seller to run a strip of masking tape around the inside of the sweat,mark where it crosses,remove it and measure the tape from the starting end to the crossover mark.

 

[totallyfrozen]

Just want to +1 the comments about not trusting manufacture sizing. We all know the stereotypes about Asian people generally being smaller than US/European people. I recently bought a hat made in Vietnam that is size "large". Well, their large is our medium. The hat is supposed to fit up to 7-3/8. It's a bit smaller than it should be on a 7-1/4 head. Take those sizing labels with a grain of salt.


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[Lean'n'mean]

But it is Most gents of a certain age will recognize it as a typical 50s porkpie with a back-bow

Most gents ? a few hat connaisseurs at best ..................

 

[TheDane]

Most gents ?

No Sir, most gents of a certain age, that was

 

[hatsRme]

No Sir, most gents of a certain age, that was

That's what I THOUGHT you said, Ole, and right you are (young fella)!

 

[T Jones]

hmmmm....36 inches for the brim width, eh. Anybody tell Joao?

 

[Lean'n'mean]

No Sir, most gents of a certain age, that was

I didn't feel it was necessary to iterate ....

 

[Lean'n'mean]

hmmmm....36 inches for the brim width, eh. Anybody tell Joao?

Still on the narrow side for him.....