What Jacket Are You Wearing Today?

[Chris_K]

Beck 333 repro by Toys Mccoys

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This is one beautiful jacket and one perfect fit.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Toys Mccoy Beck Thunderbird (mk one), basically a '59 Highwayman design but in between size of a 551T, so 44 is 43.

Very stiff leather. This was from at least 7 to 10 years ago. Now I understand why you guys mentioned the stiffness of the Mulholland and RC Hercs. I never doubted you, I just haven't experienced it until now. Amazing what they can do with the super stiff leather still. Must been a nightmare for the machinists. Newer / Current FW/RC/TM leather is softer though, very easy to wear.

They've got the Mk2 which is the Dominator pockets this season.

This is one beautiful jacket and one perfect fit.

Thank you. I've figured out the Japanese sizing is actually in between (odd number) sizing, which I am, so it works good. Anyone in between sizing like 37,39,41,43...etc can benefit from them. Post some more evolving pics of your RMC jacket. Fujioka deer ages very well.

 

[JMax]

Not wearing because traveling, but tried to post this a little bit ago— Vanson vest (Octagon and X-150) after a cleaning with water.

 

[Chris_K]

Toys Mccoy Beck Thunderbird (mk one), basically a '59 Highwayman design but in between size of a 551T, so 44 is 43.

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Very stiff leather. This was from at least 7 to 10 years ago. Now I understand why you guys mentioned the stiffness of the Mulholland and RC Hercs. I never doubted you, I just haven't experienced it until now. Amazing what they can do with the super stiff leather still. Must been a nightmare for the machinists. Newer / Current FW/RC/TM leather is softer though, very easy to wear.

They've got the Mk2 which is the Dominator pockets this season.


Thank you. I've figured out the Japanese sizing is actually in between (odd number) sizing, which I am, so it works good. Anyone in between sizing like 37,39,41,43...etc can benefit from them. Post some more evolving pics of your RMC jacket. Fujioka deer ages very well.

Amazing, amazing. I thought the Buco JH-1 was my favourite belted mc jacket, but I think this Beck just took the top spot. Thunderbird looks cracking as well, tough and rugged, beautiful leather and cut.

Appreciate the wisdom on that, interestingly that Freeman jacket is a 42, I'm pretty much bang on 41. Tried a 40 which I'd usually take, especially in the recent McCoy's sizing, was ok but no way getting a sweater under it, which is a must for me with all jackets.

Ah hah! So it's from the Fujioka tannery? Deerskin specialists? Thanks for that info man, I've been questioning where on earth they got this deerskin from. It's thick, so the creases set in, yet it drapes, is extremely pliable and the grain is other worldly. It has this almost clay like texture. It's matte in some light, yet has this glow in natural light, especially with the patina coming in. For sure I will be, also took a pic when it was pretty much fresh so I'll post a year evolution in here as well.

 

[Turnip]

Pony weather...

 

[jeo]

Beck 333 repro by Toys Mccoys

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Nice. Wasn’t aware that they did a reproduction of the version of the Beck 333 with the hand-warmer pocket. The originals had side laces. Does this one have them?

 

[Canuck Panda]

Amazing, amazing. I thought the Buco JH-1 was my favourite belted mc jacket, but I think this Beck just took the top spot. Thunderbird looks cracking as well, tough and rugged, beautiful leather and cut.

Appreciate the wisdom on that, interestingly that Freeman jacket is a 42, I'm pretty much bang on 41. Tried a 40 which I'd usually take, especially in the recent McCoy's sizing, was ok but no way getting a sweater under it, which is a must for me with all jackets.

Ah hah! So it's from the Fujioka tannery? Deerskin specialists? Thanks for that info man, I've been questioning where on earth they got this deerskin from. It's thick, so the creases set in, yet it drapes, is extremely pliable and the grain is other worldly. It has this almost clay like texture. It's matte in some light, yet has this glow in natural light, especially with the patina coming in. For sure I will be, also took a pic when it was pretty much fresh so I'll post a year evolution in here as well.

Yeah Fujioka deer is really nice. Very thick and natural graining.
Yeah, if you're North American size 40, you'll need either 42 or 44 in Japan sizing. Not because they are sized smaller, but they mostly do the pre-war stuff which are by today's standard much slimmer. When they do 50s repro like the Trojan, then it's big size like American sizing. So have to see what they say what period, that usually helps, but try on is best.

Nice. Wasn’t aware that they did a reproduction of the earlier 40s first version of the Beck 333 with the hand-warmer pocket. The originals had side laces. Does this one have them?

Yeah I know the one without the hand warmer. I think that's an even earlier model, late 30s. That Thurs shop in Taipei had some of the early D pocket jackets on display. I think the one they took orders for is D pocket only no handwarmer, not sure, have to go back and look.

Back laces? You mean this one right?

My repro jacket don't have this lacing. It's just plain:

Mine is a really old one, from the hand over days from old RMC to Nylon RMC. This jacket feels very similar to the La Brea.

 

[Rmccamey]

A beautiful bowler and jacket combo.

It's a vintage bowler from Scott & Co of England (note the reference to the King, so pre-'52). A light brown/tan bowler is extremely difficult to find as the vast majority are black. This came to me via a trade from some fellow Loungers in the Hats sub-forum. Initially found by gent in the Netherlands and then traded to me from another in Denmark after it didn't quite fit him properly. (I'm ripping the pic collage from the finder.) I'm quite lucky to be its current steward.

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Paired with a brown Cal straight zip CHP:
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[jeo]

Yeah Fujioka deer is really nice. Very thick and natural graining.
Yeah, if you're North American size 40, you'll need either 42 or 44 in Japan sizing. Not because they are sized smaller, but they mostly do the pre-war stuff which are by today's standard much slimmer. When they do 50s repro like the Trojan, then it's big size like American sizing. So have to see what they say what period, that usually helps, but try on is best.


Yeah I know the one without the hand warmer. I think that's an even earlier model, late 30s. That Thurs shop in Taipei had some of the early D pocket jackets on display. I think the one they took orders for is D pocket only no handwarmer, not sure, have to go back and look.

Back laces? You mean this one right?
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My repro jacket don't have this lacing. It's just plain:
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Mine is a really old one, from the hand over days from old RMC to Nylon RMC. This jacket feels very similar to the La Brea.

The Beck 333s with the hand-warmer pockets had side laces. Interesting why they didn't include them on the repro.

 

[tmitchell59]

The Beck 333s with the hand-warmer pockets had side laces. Interesting why they didn't include them on the repro.

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So this is the model thought to be made by Leather Togs? Year?

 

[tmitchell59]

Just unboxed and tried on in 88 degree heat!

Mid 1940s horsehide Windward with patented "Two way pockets" patent date; May 1936. This is another duplicate of another favorite. This one goes in the big and tall section. 46/48

 

[Canuck Panda]

The Beck 333s with the hand-warmer pockets had side laces. Interesting why they didn't include them on the repro.

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Oh no! No wonder my seller sold it to me, and here’s me thinking I scored. The magazine only showed the front not the back. Cheeky ba***rd.
2x6 eyelets high lacing, very cool.

the new site sensors out the b word automatically…

 

[Tom71]

Toys Mccoy Beck Thunderbird (mk one), basically a '59 Highwayman design but in between size of a 551T, so 44 is 43.

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Very stiff leather. This was from at least 7 to 10 years ago. Now I understand why you guys mentioned the stiffness of the Mulholland and RC Hercs. I never doubted you, I just haven't experienced it until now. Amazing what they can do with the super stiff leather still. Must been a nightmare for the machinists. Newer / Current FW/RC/TM leather is softer though, very easy to wear.

They've got the Mk2 which is the Dominator pockets this season.


Thank you. I've figured out the Japanese sizing is actually in between (odd number) sizing, which I am, so it works good. Anyone in between sizing like 37,39,41,43...etc can benefit from them. Post some more evolving pics of your RMC jacket. Fujioka deer ages very well.

I love that! One of your most interesting jackets, IMO. Can you zip it up comfortably?

 

[jeo]

So this is the model thought to be made by Leather Togs? Year?

No one thinks they were made by LT, just Stu from LW. @Canuck Panda was theorizing and pointed out similarities. So this is all just speculation.

If LT did in fact make jackets for Beck and the question is what year/s, I’d imagine only the earlier ones, so probably late 30’s-early 40’s.

 

[Canuck Panda]

I love that! One of your most interesting jackets, IMO. Can you zip it up comfortably?

Zip up ok, but the sleeves are slim and this leather is too thick and stiff for these sleeves. I believe Lewis got it right with the softer sheep leather, or if horsehide in these tight fit models it has to be the soft ones. The main difference between the Japan “dominators” is that they put the Mulholland style wing collar on them, everything else looks about the same, I compared to the pics and size charts on the Corlation website.

No one thinks they were made by LT, just Stu from LW. @Canuck Panda was theorizing and pointed out similarities. So this is all just speculation.

If LT did in fact make jackets for Beck and the question is what year/s, I’d imagine only the earlier ones, so probably late 30’s-early 40’s.

Jeo is correct @tmichell59. I didn’t see the side triangle panel unique to Schott and made the theory. I went to see Lost World comment on his site and even he said Tanaka thinks they’re Schott made but he think differently because of the labels. If anyone has a back photo of the earlier Schott, like the one in the Tanaka book (he only showed the front), then that could be another clue. It’s like solving a murder mystery, one piece at a time, twist and turns, what’s the finale?

 

[X83]

Breaking in this areo board racer in badalassi russet the full leather vest from aero just came in yesterday still haven’t opened box

 

[Rawky]

A2 Cooper Sportswear
Bravestarr Selvedge jeans
Redwing Moctoes

 

[58panheadfan]

The Beck 333s with the hand-warmer pockets had side laces. Interesting why they didn't include them on the repro.

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Personally, I don't believe this Jacket is a "333" model, but rather an early "999". This neck label was used until the 1950s and (as far as I know) side laces were not in use (common) in the 1930s/1940s, this is a typical 1950 feature. But as often in the past, little to nothing was wasted, so it is quite possible that the lining of a 333 was used on this 999. Also, as far as I know, the 333 models didn't have hand warmer pockets. As for the theory that the Beck's were produced by LT, I believe this is a myth. I can't imagine that a major supplier to the motorcycle market at the time turned to a niche producer like LT, which, as we know, only produced in small series and often custom orders (far too expensive for a reseller). As is well known, Schott entered into a collab with Beck's in the early 1930s and that is why I believe that the 333 models were all produced by Schott for Beck's with their own label.

Some pictures from Book 100 Years Schott:

 

[jeo]

Personally, I don't believe this Jacket is a "333" model, but rather an early "999".

I'm fairly certain it's not a "999", but rather a different version of the "333" with a hand-warmer pocket.

The model 999 came out in 1951 and had the Northeaster horsehide tag, same as the older 333s. They later changed the design of the 999 from this first picture to the second picture, but kept the Northeaster tag just no mention of leather type on the label. Then either in the late 50's or early 60's they changed to the "checkered flag" tag.

This is what an early 50's first edition "999" with the Northeaster horsehide tag looks like. Note the bottom waist band, no attached belt.

This is what a slighter later 50's 999 looks like with the Northeaster tag and no leather specification, which means steerhide. Note no bottom waist band and now attached belt.

And this is an early 60's "999", now with the checkered flag label. I own an even later one that has the belt loops but no attached belt.

The Tanaka timeline for the Beck labels is either incorrect or incomplete. They completely forgot to include the Northeaster tag that does not specify a leather type. The jackets with those tags are all steerhide even though there is no leather specification. Those labels went into the late 50's before they switched to the checkered flag label.

and (as far as I know) side laces were not in use (common) in the 1930s/1940s, this is a typical 1950 feature.

Many police jackets from the 40's have side laces. Most (if not all) Peter's jackets have them and they are mostly from the 30's, many more from the 30's and 40's have them as well.

As for the theory that the Beck's were produced by LT, I believe this is a myth. I can't imagine that a major supplier to the motorcycle market at the time turned to a niche producer like LT, which, as we know, only produced in small series and often custom orders (far too expensive for a reseller). As is well known, Schott entered into a collab with Beck's in the early 1930s and that is why I believe that the 333 models were all produced by Schott for Beck's with their own label.

I agree. I am intrigued by this claim, but not convinced.

 

[Canuck Panda]

the Jeo jacket is Beck 444. My TM is a cross breed of 333 and 444 or 444 sans laces. Thurs stocked Himel and TM 333s both times no hand warmer pockets. My jacket must’ve been an illegitimate child… seal brown too not black…

We need a 30s / 40s Beck Schott thread…