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Doran said:Herodotus is generally thought to have written earlier than Thucydides, though. He does not mention anything that happened after circa 425 BC and his account proper only goes down to 478 BC. Thuc on the other hand is writing about the events right after Herodotus; after his "archaeology" in Book 1 he starts with the period after 478, so from about 477 BC until the abrupt breakoff in Book 8 in 411 BC. Herodotus does not mention Thuc. Thuc was son of Oloros, a Thracian prince. He owned gold or silver mines (i cannot remember offhand) in Thrace.
That's so funny about Schliemann finding Troy. People give him a lot of grief now, but his accomplishments were huge. I've been to Troy. It's all low walls, fallen plains, bushes, crud. It's no longer very close to the sea. My guide (one Nursel Demirdelen) warned me "The best way to appreciate Troy is to lower one's expectations." Hee hee.
:eusa_doh: I should have said that Herodotus mentioned Oloros--father of Thucydides in his The Histories Book 6, Chapter 39 section 1:
"XXXIX. Stesagoras met his end in this way. The sons of Pisistratus sent Miltiades, son of Cimon and brother of the dead Stesagoras, in a trireme to the Chersonese to take control of the country; they had already treated him well at Athens, feigning that they had not been accessory to the death of Cimon his father, which I will relate in another place. Reaching the Chersonese, Miltiades kept himself within his house, professing thus to honor the memory of his brother Stesagoras. When the people of the Chersonese learned this, their ruling men gathered together from all the cities on every side, and came together in a group to show fellow-feeling with his mourning; but he put them in bonds. So Miltiades made himself master of the Chersonese; there he maintained a guard of five hundred men, and married Hegesipyle the daughter of Olorus, king of Thrace."
Roughly translated---of course.
I had a seat of the pants view of Troy through the History channel. It was probably more interesting since they focused on certain areas and showed the remnants of fire damage and the like accompanied by experts in related fields. I think they only found the remains of one woman under some stairs that collapsed. Probably makes sense when you consider Homer's tale of the event.
Regards,
J