Want Indy Jones jacket with the correct drape that stays more to the sides.

[kenadams]

I’m not sure the best way to describe this but I want to get an Indiana Jones jacket that has the correct drape to it.
I see a lot of people that buy them or cosplay in the jacket and it always comes too far around the front. It just looks like a regular bomber jacket. I got one from Wested Legacy Hero with my dimensions but again it came around the front too much. Just looked like a St. John’s bay / round tree York bomber style jacket.
I’ve noticed that Indiana Jones jacket seems to stay to the sides, more exposing more of the shirt. It looks like the collar is longer as well and it drapes down the neck more. I posted some pictures so you can kind of see it’s hard to put in the words. The other picture (guy with a horse) is one that I feel a lot of the Indiana Jones jackets look like and I don’t really like the look of it coming around the front that much. Not looking for a winter weather jacket just something more of a fashion jacket.
If you guys have any recommendations of where to get one or the model with the correct look please let me know. Thanks.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Gotta find one with narrower width front panels but still same overall circumference, so the front hangs to the side but there’s more leather in the back and side panels so it still has that relaxed look.

 

[Marvin Berry]

To me, it looks like the one(s?) on Harrison Ford look 2 sizes too big (shoulder seams hang off both of his shoulders), and in the third pic, it looks like the jacket properly fits him (again, look at the shoulders).

If you want to match the look, maybe size up?

 

[Monitor]

I’m not sure the best way to describe this but I want to get an Indiana Jones jacket that has the correct drape to it.
I see a lot of people that buy them or cosplay in the jacket and it always comes too far around the front. It just looks like a regular bomber jacket. I got one from Wested Legacy Hero with my dimensions but again it came around the front too much. Just looked like a St. John’s bay / round tree York bomber style jacket.
I’ve noticed that Indiana Jones jacket seems to stay to the sides, more exposing more of the shirt. It looks like the collar is longer as well and it drapes down the neck more. I posted some pictures so you can kind of see it’s hard to put in the words. The other picture (guy with a horse) is one that I feel a lot of the Indiana Jones jackets look like and I don’t really like the look of it coming around the front that much. Not looking for a winter weather jacket just something more of a fashion jacket.
If you guys have any recommendations of where to get one or the model with the correct look please let me know. Thanks.

That's movie magic and I'm not even kidding. You can't have clothes behave just any way the physics want it to on camera. Indy's jacket is held together on the inside (depending on the scene), which is why you mostly always get to see his unbuttoned shirt. It's a standard practice on the set & what costume designers do. Otherwise, you'd have this over-sized leather jacket either flapping around all over the place or completely covering the actors torso.

 

[Bfd70]

^ yep, buy one that fits you and use binder clips. That’s more or less what they did.

ps use the search function and you’ll find days of reading on the indy jacket

 

[Edward]

Yeah, the only way I can think of to consistently have that look in real life, other than to binder clip the jacket inside, would be to have it cut too trim to close properly at the front. Just not an option.

I've always been amused by how Wested describe the differences between the Hero jacket and the regular one. For my money both are great, but as a garment the standard fit is definitely superior, and there are very, very few of us the Hero jacket will ever sit on in quite the same way as ford anyhow... Reminds me, I'm keen on a new Wested Indy, I just wish I'd been organised to buy one direct before they shut the retail shop - they're online-only now.

 

[kenadams]

Thank you all. Those are excellent points. I never thought about them using binder clips to hold it in place. Pretty good idea though. I really appreciate all the responses it’s fun to share ideas. I think I may try the Destiny jacket and see if the clips will work when I want it to stay back. Can’t hurt to try. I’m reluctant to go too much on the larger size for fear and they’re being a lot of extra leather on the sides or back.

 

[Tom71]

That's movie magic and I'm not even kidding. You can't have clothes behave just any way the physics want it to on camera. Indy's jacket is held together on the inside (depending on the scene), which is why you mostly always get to see his unbuttoned shirt. It's a standard practice on the set & what costume designers do. Otherwise, you'd have this over-sized leather jacket either flapping around all over the place or completely covering the actors torso.

There are a lot of „behind the scenes“ stories for the later James Bond Movies. Like, when Daniel Craig would do shots where he was relatively static, he would wear the clothing one full size smaller than when he had to „perform“ (what they call the „hero-shots“).

The „clipping“ is relatively common. AFAIK, it is used with news presenters to make the suit jacket look fitting when they sit down, holding a paper in front (a posture where you would expect creases across the chest).

 

[Aloysius]

There are a lot of „behind the scenes“ stories for the later James Bond Movies. Like, when Daniel Craig would do shots where he was relatively static, he would wear the clothing one full size smaller than when he had to „perform“ (what they call the „hero-shots“).

Ironically those under-sized suits really age Skyfall poorly because it's rather unusual for the suits of a Bond film to be so trend-chasing rather than classically tailored. But then I guess that's the deal with the devil they made with the Tom Ford sponsorship. (The suits in Quantum actually seemed to fit decently, but the Skyfall skinny fit is painful.)

They really need to go back to bespoke suits for Bond and they can happily keep the rest of the wardrobe sponsored merchandise. But the suits need to fit right.

 

[Tom71]

Agreed. It’s gotten a bit too rich. Skyfall´s still a great movie, but in some ways also a very professional add for clothing, drink and Omega watches. This aspect has not improved with Spectre and No time…

 

[Aloysius]

Agreed. It’s gotten a bit too rich. Skyfall´s still a great movie, but in some ways also a very professional add for clothing, drink and Omega watches. This aspect has not improved with Spectre and No time…

Meanwhile, Ralph Fiennes as M wears beautifully tailored bespoke suits which really shows Bond's poor fit by contrast.

 

[Edward]

Ironically those under-sized suits really age Skyfall poorly because it's rather unusual for the suits of a Bond film to be so trend-chasing rather than classically tailored. But then I guess that's the deal with the devil they made with the Tom Ford sponsorship. (The suits in Quantum actually seemed to fit decently, but the Skyfall skinny fit is painful.)

They really need to go back to bespoke suits for Bond and they can happily keep the rest of the wardrobe sponsored merchandise. But the suits need to fit right.

Roger Moore stands as a warning from history there. Of the pre-Craig Bonds, Moore was the one they really went 'fashion' with, the result being that his films now look the most painfully dated of all.

Meanwhile, Ralph Fiennes as M wears beautifully tailored bespoke suits which really shows Bond's poor fit by contrast.

I expect the costume people wanted to present Bond as 'modern and thrusting' whereas M is very much Of The Establishment. As a shorthand for that it does work, the problem being of course that Bond's own class background is very much aligned with M's.

 

[Tom71]

Roger Moore stands as a warning from history there. Of the pre-Craig Bonds, Moore was the one they really went 'fashion' with, the result being that his films now look the most painfully dated of all.




I expect the costume people wanted to present Bond as 'modern and thrusting' whereas M is very much Of The Establishment. As a shorthand for that it does work, the problem being of course that Bond's own class background is very much aligned with M's.

I am not opposed to Bond adopting a more modern look (the italian/french way of suiting as opposed to dwelling on the old british tailoring tradition).

The issue for me is the constant question as to how he moves in suits that are so tight fitting that ANY form of physicality will let all seams burst in real life. C.F. the opening scenes of "Spectre" or "Skyfall".

I agree that the Moore-Bonds have not aged well in terms of today´s perception of the fashion displayed, but I accept that every bond is a mirror of its time in that respect, and the 80s have been - well - challenging in that regard.

 

[Edward]

I am not opposed to Bond adopting a more modern look (the italian/french way of suiting as opposed to dwelling on the old british tailoring tradition).

The issue for me is the constant question as to how he moves in suits that are so tight fitting that ANY form of physicality will let all seams burst in real life. C.F. the opening scenes of "Spectre" or "Skyfall".

I agree that the Moore-Bonds have not aged well in terms of today´s perception of the fashion displayed, but I accept that every bond is a mirror of its time in that respect, and the 80s have been - well - challenging in that regard.

It's been a while since I check out the eighties Bonds - you remind me, though, that Dalton, for all he felt like a breath of fresh air at the time, also dated very badly as Bond. Connery hasn't, though I suspect in part that's as when I came to those they already had preserved a retro-cool absent from later productions, and quite likely in large part that they were made before the series lost its sense of self and started being self-parodying and campy for want of ideas.

Craig was the first time it seemed to have a sense of purpose again, even if his tenure (credible a Bond as he is) has been very 50/50. (First and third are very good, final one is almost on the same level, save for the huge mistake of killing the main villain before the final act, only to replace him with an ill-drawn antagonist, lacking any sense of a second, let alone third, dimension, and no sense of an actual motivation.)

The skinny suits are madness given how he moves, yes. Perhaps we're meant to assume this is some Q wizardy, and they are made of some sort of worsted combined with a new, wonderfabric with hugely elastine properties.

 

[Aloysius]

Roger Moore stands as a warning from history there. Of the pre-Craig Bonds, Moore was the one they really went 'fashion' with, the result being that his films now look the most painfully dated of all.




I expect the costume people wanted to present Bond as 'modern and thrusting' whereas M is very much Of The Establishment. As a shorthand for that it does work, the problem being of course that Bond's own class background is very much aligned with M's.

I think every Bond era has leaned into fashion somewhat (seen most in the casual wear), but through the 80s his suits were bespoke so the fit itself wasn't a trend-chasing thing.

In the 90s, they wanted to make Bond seem as European as possible (though blessedly his shirts and ties were still British) but the Brioni suits still fit fairly well, not as well as the bespoke but dramatically better than the shrunken Tom Fords.

Personally, the clothing (and plot) of SPECTRE killed my lifelong interest in the series which went back to reading Casino Royale as a boy. SPECTRE felt like the campiest possible plot but played straight. (This was generally the problem with the Brosnan films too, treating the campy plots seriously, I mean.)

Couldn't bring myself to see the new one though perhaps I'll have to bite the bullet.