VintageGoth?

[pigeon toe]

my myspace page with older pics of me and some background too
Not goth personally, but 10 years+ been running psychobilly shows and old time spook shows/spook show themed dj nights with delta blues, calypso, rhythm & blues, rockabilly, garage, punk, psychobilly - really whatever's wild and fun without pretensions and can work giveaway skeletons, glow in the dark spirits and/or get dressed up in a gorilla suit and dj till I'm falling down drunk and dancing aaaand I love run on sentences, and bulldogs.

I love me some psychobillies (and bulldogs). You had awesome hair dude. Can we be best friends?

 

[mike]

I love me some psychobillies (and bulldogs). You had awesome hair dude. Can we be best friends?

ok! I'm game!

 

[Ada Veen]

Do you have the original Warsaw recordings? Those are my favorite!

Only the stuff on Substance, unless there is anything on Heart and Soul (which my boyfriend bought me, thus negating pretty much everything in my Joy Division collection up to that point!)

Always thought of living in a converted church, and a church-as-family-dwelling figures prominently in an illustrated story I'm working on.

Hollywood Cemetery, the famous yard in my hometown of Richmond, Virginia is quite famous - Two American presidents, 25 Confederate generals including J.E.B. Stuart, and my beloved president Jefferson Davis. Add to that gorgeous statuary and mausoleums, numerous hauntings, one vampire (who made the papers in the 1800s) and a huge stone pyramid to our Confederate dead, and you have a place they have to shoo me out of with a dirty broom!

http://hollywoodcemetery.org/

I just took the virtual tour of the cemetery - wow, so big, like a town for the dead! I also like the fact that the vampire was an accountant

The church we used to play in actually became a private residence, and my dad dated the lady that lived there for a while. It was sold recently, but unfortunately all the pictures of the interior have been removed from the internet now. suffice to say, it was really lovely inside. Very gothic, and they retained lots of the original features. It sold for just under £500,000 I think.

 

[Camille]

my myspace page with older pics of me and some background too
Not goth personally, but 10 years+ been running psychobilly shows and old time spook shows/spook show themed dj nights with delta blues, calypso, rhythm & blues, rockabilly, garage, punk, psychobilly - really whatever's wild and fun without pretensions and can work giveaway skeletons, glow in the dark spirits and/or get dressed up in a gorilla suit and dj till I'm falling down drunk and dancing aaaand I love run on sentences, and bulldogs.

Alot of my old goth-friends headed into the psychobillyscene when they "grew up" (closed in on their 25's-30's). I think it would have too if I hadn't turned towards the vintage look. They're dragging me along to lots and lots of clubs and concerts, though, which I really enjoy. Nice subculture, I think! :cheers1:

Haha, I talked to one of the few who's actually stayed in the goth scene the other week. She's now an embalmer, and her boyfriend's a pathologist. They both look like something taken right out of an old horror-movie and when we talked about the city where I live she went "OOOoooh, Uppsala has the nicest cementary in the country!" I can't help but to adore her for being like that.

 

[Travis]

I got into punk rock pretty young, played in a punk band for quite a while and after about 10 year of punk rock, I got sort of sick of spikes, studs and mohawks, and I moved over to the goth scene for a very short time. From there I gave up on making an effort to be part of a "scene" and just do what makes me feel good.

Here isa picture of me circa 2002. A bit tamer than at some points in my life.

<img src="http://a202.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_0b88c06dbf2daf243b50b23d170f0289.jpg">

 

[Kim_B]

While I've never truly considered myself goth in the aspect of the way I dress or my outward appearance, I have certainly always had an interest in "goth" things - the darker sides of life, if you will. I've always loved Edgar Allen Poe to the point that in school I had teachers asking if I was "ok" :eusa_doh: I do love the Victorian goth look, though, and was quite pleased when we had to read "Interview With A Vampire" in school. I seem to connect better with the "goth" types though, I imagine because they are more understanding of not really fitting into mainstream society...

I love the music of that genre though...I've seen Bauhaus live - Peter Murphy rocks my world, and while it isn't goth per se, Nine Inch Nails and KMFDM are high on my list of frequently played artists...as is a group by the name of Combichrist, all of which I've seen live. I've recently started listening to old school Ministry as well...

And while a lot of people are turned off by the scene and thing the people who dress this way or listen to this music are just punks looking for trouble, I have to say they are some of the nicest people I've ever met.

 

[M Tatterscratch]

I Can Tell My Sister By the Flowers In Her Eyes...

Ms. B.,

Well, that qualifies you in my book, especially Poe. Funny, I was never so into the
music, although I did like a lot of it. It was always about the sensibility to me.

A lot of Gothic music, particularly the later stuff (excluding the fabulous Rasputina and Mors Syphilitica), just seemed so obviously gloomy. The interesting songs are ones that don't immediately jump out as having "Gothic" themes.

F'r'instance, the Coon-Sanders song "Ready For the River" seems carefree until you realise he's going to drown himself.

I was listening to, of all things, "Shambala" by the Three Dog Night a few days ago and realised that the song appealed to me because, through the happy-hippy sound, I heard a misunderstood and maltreated man who was leaving the world for a land where his people dwell, just like our talks about our vintage town. Maybe it's even a metaphor for a paradise beyond death. In any case, it's certainly not a "Gothic" song on the surface but:

Wash away my troubles, wash away my pain
With the rain in Shambala
Wash away my sorrow, wash away my shame
With the rain in Shambala

Everyone is helpful, everyone is kind
On the road to Shambala
Everyone is lucky, everyone is so kind
On the road to Shambala...

Like traditional folk and blues songs, it starts by stating the problem - pain of life - then states its wish - everyone is helpful, everyone is kind - the wish of a man that life has mistreated. All in all, very "Gothic" themes without a whiff of Gothic sound.

I wonder which Goth band could do an ideal cover of this in a minor chord...?

I know, by now anyone reading this must think I'm out of my mind, but as I said earlier, I think Goth is really a state of mind. Some people don't need funereal music or black to see the hem of the shroud among the revellers. You say flower, I say lily. Show me a Rorschach blot, I'll show you a skull.

I can't say why, but that makes me very, very happy.


"I can tell my sister by the flowers in her eyes
On the road to Shambala
I can tell my brother by the flowers in his eyes
On the road to Shambala..."

T.


P.S. - Ms. B. - Love your glasses.

 

[Ada Veen]

It's my boyfriends birthday today and this was one of his presents:

http://www.amazon.com/People-Warnin...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195465231&sr=8-1

I hope the link works.

 

[Edward]

Edward, I find some of those outfits and make-ups to be positively Nosferatu. Minus the bad dentistry of course.

heh, well... my lower jawline ain't so pretty.... I have every intention of doing Count Orlock as a costume at some point.... I just need the coat and the teeth.

And why is it that I can picture you in fishnets and corset and pearls doing the Time Warp?lol

You've seen those pictures, then?

Edward- Your costumes are great. I love your prosthetic "scars" you used in your Scissorhands look. (I was a makeup artist for years, I love scars and prosthetics... oh and bloooood! ha!)

Thanks - just a littel bottle of stuff I picked up in Charles Fox in Covent Garden- can't remember the name, but it puckers the skin just by painting on one colourless liquid. I was really pleased with how it turned out - much better than spirit gumming on a latex scar (plus no blending involved). Took just three layers to get the scarring that deep. Definitely a great addition to my box of tricks.

Edward, old man, you're positively the real McCoy! Absolutely love your Hallowe'en 2004 look - very dangerous! The Skellington is startling, too!

Heh, thanks. You can't go wrong with a little bondage wear at the right time. lol

A lot of gothic genre literature classics were written in Victorian times, such as Frankenstein, Dracula, etc. so it only follows that gothic fashion would, in effect, be Victorian inspired. Corpse Bride, anyone?

On the right, my friend Mikki:

(UK loungers may or may not recognise the divine Imelda May in the centre there).

You should have seen the bathroom after she showered all that blue off: looked like we'd murdered a smurf.

 

[Travis]

It's my boyfriends birthday today and this was one of his presents:

http://www.amazon.com/People-Warnin...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195465231&sr=8-1

I hope the link works.

What a gift! Now I'm going to have to go out and get one myself.

 

[BegintheBeguine]

I'm not Goth; I was born vintage.

I saw a lot of Goths at the VNV Nation concert Saturday but no vintage. Even I wasn't wearing vintage ( but a pale blue 1940s-style suit, if anyone is interested) as I am tired of getting beer spilled on my beautiful dresses whenever I go anywhere else but my Goth club Vertex.

 

[goldwyn girl]

You should have seen the bathroom after she showered all that blue off: looked like we'd murdered a smurf.

lol lol lol

 

[M Tatterscratch]

It's my boyfriends birthday today and this was one of his presents:

http://www.amazon.com/People-Warnin...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1195465231&sr=8-1

I hope the link works.

Wow, what a swell gift! Best wishes to the birthday beau!

T.

 

[killertomata]

The goth subculture has been my subculture since I was 14 (I'm 37 now), and at the same time I'm often the one dressed in vintage clothes. That is what's so great about the goth scene; all darkness is accepted, whatever ere you prefer. lol

You can't escape who you are (not that I'd want to) and I've been very dark, spooky, etc, since I was a child (my doll at three was a rubber skeleton, I made bug cemeteries, etc.) and so the goth subculture has always been a place I felt more at home than anywhere else- goths have never seen me as strange, unlike most of the world, and it gets old to always be told how odd you are for liking thanatology, coffins, and such, and the goth world accepts that as well as my obsession with things like bunnies and flying reindeer, and no one thinks it's odd. Ok they might, but they love you for it instead of going, "You're weird" or "I don't know what to think of you."

Within vintage-based scenes I find myself feeling like an odd one out because I'm not sunshine and flowers, and because in SoCal a lot of people can get really arrogant about who is wearing what and how vintage it is. I'm not into comparison dressing, I wear what I wear because I like it, not because I want other people to like it.

I tend to wear either vintage 1940s or Victorian looks when I go out into the world- these days I've gotten much more casual because life is crazy and I haven't cared to put the effort in I used to, so jeans and t-shirts happen on occasion- but it does always tend to reflect my dark self, no matter what I'm wearing, because otherwise I feel like I'm in costume.

I went to Convergence, me and my bf were in vintage. We got tons of compliments because if there is any group who appreciates a good aesthetic, it's the goths. I go to club in vintage, compliments.

However, ask me about goth music, and I'm stuck in the 80s for the most part, because that's where I first came into the subculture. With few exceptions for modern goth, I'm totally about the past. Musically I listen to mostly swing, but if it's got a dark side- such as Quoth the Raven by Ella Mae Morse, or Swingin' at the Seance, or a million other dark swing songs, all the better.

Wow that was a long reply.

ps... that Amazon item is SO going on my wishlist...

 

[blacklagoon]

I remember when i was a very young teen,a band started up and called themselves the damned.nowadays,they are attributed to being the godfathers of the goth music scene,from dress to music,but back in the time they first started,and throughout their entire career,they have constantly been accused of copying another band called the stranglers ( like gwen stefani and madonna ).the banshees got their name from that vincent price film: cry of the banshee.
Then again,the stranglers were always accused of copying the doors.

 

[jayem]

I was never a goth. Always more 'prep'. I came to vintage through my life-long love of history. Gothic clothing is fun (lots of dresses), but I've always liked pretty, frilly, pastel-y colors. Black is just boring, sometimes. In high school I looked more like a stoner than anything... torn jeans, Doors shirt, tank tops, long straightened hair... Slowly I started to wear more skirts, than I starting letting my hair curl, and so on.

 

[CharlesB]

Has any of you seen the film Nomi Song or the new book Punk 365? Nomi song starts way back at Max's Kansas City and follows Klaus Nomi... For those of you on the West Coast , from what I've heard, Punk 365 covers the punk bands and clubs from New York to LA and accross the pond. I've just ordered a copy of the book after my friend saw it at a tour stop in NYC last night.

Im a huge Nomi fan

 

[Story]

Gothic wedding

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=528676&in_page_id=1770

Just in time for Bauhaus' resurrection.
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazet....html?id=493e3b1f-d63f-4671-b852-7502c66234de

bela lugosi's dead
bela lugosi's dead
undead undead undead

 

[Johanna]

And as I like visual stuff, here's me back in my postpunk days:

This is so strange! I've had that picture saved on my computer for ages since I thought the girl had such a great look. I had no idea who it was and I don't remember where I got it.

I've never been a goth or punk or any kind of subculture follower since I'm not the kind of person who likes to stick to a certain "style" and belong to a group, but my look has definitely been very influenced by them. I'm also a huge fan of a lot of goth and punk music. And I'm into anything 80s, and goth is very 80s.

Some of my gothest moments:

 

[Dr Doran]

Great to see this thread. I never called myself a goth, but I was heavily into punk-rock in the 1980s and I always liked some industrial and goth such as Einsturzende Neubauten, Throbbing Gristle, Current 93, DEATH IN JUNE (I'm a huge fan and have seen them play), Sol Invictus, and of course Bauhaus and Siouxsie -- that goes without saying. Nick Cave, too. And many more, too many to list. I like dark. I think one of the many reasons I liked Portishead was the darkness in their music.

I have gone out with Goth girls and that was nice as they were the only truly elegant girls I knew outside of vintage girls. And I like elegant. A lot.