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The Summer of my German Coat:

Bob Loblaw

New in Town
Messages
23
Location
Tempe, AZ
I purchased this coat recently. The following is the seller's description as well as some pictures. Let me know what you think!

Very rare WWII German officier's leather double breasted long great coat / overcoat / trenchcoat / in European size 52 and US size 42 reg.

Could be Wehrmacht or Luftwaffe.

I've had the coat professionally cleaned at significant cost and there is no foul musty smell. The leather and lining are clean and the coat is ready to wear.

56 cm armpit to armpit

49cm shoulders (straight across back)

62cm arm length (from top of shoulder to tip of sleeve)

130cm long (from top of collar to bottom of coat along the back)

Gray-blue leather is distressed and has great patina and grain showing. The pictures don't do justice to the grain and texture of the vintage leather. Judging by the weight it could be horsehide or heavy steerhide. The workmanship and quality is amazing and the jacket has many years of wear left in it.

Tag reads "Lederbekleidung, Tschache + co., Dresden-A"

No rips, tears, or holes in the leather. Leather is soft and pliable.

Lining feels like real silk and has a few minor worn spots but there are no rips or tears along the seams.

Description of details: Coat has dagger holder, attachement loop with strap closure to close the jacket, inside breast pockets and zipper pocket on the lower side, leather covered buttons attached through metal eyelets in the leather and held in place on the inside by thick metal wire covered by a leather piece (not just sewn on the leather, all orginal, sturdy, and all in place), snap bottons on the collar with ajustable storm flap, zig zag stitching on the collar and stitched collar stand, collar hook, faux belt with two buttons on the back, snap buttons on the back vent (all in place), a glove pocket opening on the left hand sleeve fold, two side slant pockets with flaps lined in dark grey moleskin cotton, shoulder epaulette / shoulderbord holders.

A rare and genuine WWII officer's greatcoat in wearable condition. This genuine item is not to be compared with the so called German officier's, Gestapo, SS coats in dark green leather that are often advertised but which are actually 1950's or 60's German police coats.



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Flieger

Practically Family
Messages
570
Location
Umea, Sweden
Wow! Congratulations. That is one mean-looking coat! :eek: When and where does one wear something like that?

How much does it weigh?

Flieger
 

Bob Loblaw

New in Town
Messages
23
Location
Tempe, AZ
Flieger said:
Wow! Congratulations. That is one mean-looking coat! :eek: When and where does one wear something like that?

How much does it weigh?

Flieger

This was not one of my more practical purchases. I was inspired to look for horsehide jackets because of this forum once and found this jacket. I haven't had much of an occasion to wear it yet though I figure when I do it will be with a tweed flat cap to soften up the look a little. When you have something this mean looking the right accesories become very important!
 

cookie

I'll Lock Up
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5,927
Location
Sydney Australia
Bob Loblaw said:
I purchased this coat recently. The following is the seller's description as well as some pictures. Let me know what you think!

Very rare WWII German officier's leather double breasted long great coat / overcoat / trenchcoat / in European size 52 and US size 42 reg.

Could be Wehrmacht or Luftwaffe.

I've had the coat professionally cleaned at significant cost and there is no foul musty smell. The leather and lining are clean and the coat is ready to wear.

56 cm armpit to armpit

49cm shoulders (straight across back)

62cm arm length (from top of shoulder to tip of sleeve)

130cm long (from top of collar to bottom of coat along the back)

Gray-blue leather is distressed and has great patina and grain showing. The pictures don't do justice to the grain and texture of the vintage leather. Judging by the weight it could be horsehide or heavy steerhide. The workmanship and quality is amazing and the jacket has many years of wear left in it.

Tag reads "Lederbekleidung, Tschache + co., Dresden-A"

No rips, tears, or holes in the leather. Leather is soft and pliable.

Lining feels like real silk and has a few minor worn spots but there are no rips or tears along the seams.

Description of details: Coat has dagger holder, attachement loop with strap closure to close the jacket, inside breast pockets and zipper pocket on the lower side, leather covered buttons attached through metal eyelets in the leather and held in place on the inside by thick metal wire covered by a leather piece (not just sewn on the leather, all orginal, sturdy, and all in place), snap bottons on the collar with ajustable storm flap, zig zag stitching on the collar and stitched collar stand, collar hook, faux belt with two buttons on the back, snap buttons on the back vent (all in place), a glove pocket opening on the left hand sleeve fold, two side slant pockets with flaps lined in dark grey moleskin cotton, shoulder epaulette / shoulderbord holders.

A rare and genuine WWII officer's greatcoat in wearable condition. This genuine item is not to be compared with the so called German officier's, Gestapo, SS coats in dark green leather that are often advertised but which are actually 1950's or 60's German police coats.



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Ganz fantastisch Herr Flieger!
 

dhermann1

I'll Lock Up
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9,154
Location
Da Bronx, NY, USA
Spitfire said:
You only wear it when driving in the open Mercedes Benz;)
Riding crop in hand. Other preferred accessories: black eye patch, appropriate fencing scar on cheek. Smoking cigaret in looong holder.
Preferred activity: best possible impression of Sid Caesar doing his impression of a Nazi officer. "Der vaggen shplitzen mitt der pfartzen blozzom!" (Sputter sputter.)
Actually, I must say, the thing gives me the willies. Couldn't wear it.
 

blacklagoon

One of the Regulars
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224
Location
united kingdom
beautiful

that is a beautiful looking coat,congratulations on managing to get hold of it.i was talking to a guy in a chat room last week,who was asking if anyone wanted to buy his grandfathers old german leather coat from world war 2.we all discussed it,but the guy said he didn't know how to sell it from within germany.we suggested ebay,and the guy said,all german world war 2 items are banned from being sold in germany and on the german ebay site.he ended the chat by saying that he could try a village network somewhere in germany.it seems to be the only place,according to the guy,where people can secretly sell world war 2 german items and clothing.he said it was in the countryside villages of germany,in a specific regions/regions.i can't remember the name,but i will try and see if he's around and ask him.if what he said is true,it looks like getting hold of german items and clothing is going to be very difficult for us all.
 

John Lever

One Too Many
Messages
1,820
Location
Southern England
blacklagoon said:
that is a beautiful looking coat,congratulations on managing to get hold of it.i was talking to a guy in a chat room last week,who was asking if anyone wanted to buy his grandfathers old german leather coat from world war 2.we all discussed it,but the guy said he didn't know how to sell it from within germany.we suggested ebay,and the guy said,all german world war 2 items are banned from being sold in germany and on the german ebay site.he ended the chat by saying that he could try a village network somewhere in germany.it seems to be the only place,according to the guy,where people can secretly sell world war 2 german items and clothing.he said it was in the countryside villages of germany,in a specific regions/regions.i can't remember the name,but i will try and see if he's around and ask him.if what he said is true,it looks like getting hold of german items and clothing is going to be very difficult for us all.
I browse German ebay every day. There always several [100's in fact] military items listed as WW2.
 

blacklagoon

One of the Regulars
Messages
224
Location
united kingdom
thanks

thank you john,the guy is obviously mistaken somehow.if i see him,i'll let him know that selling german military items and clothing on the german ebay site is possible.i thought it all sounded a bit dodgy,when he started talking about a secret village network.i even mentioned people can buy repro luftwaffe jackets direct from germany,advertised on ebay.he just kept saying it is against the law.it's great to know the guy is completely wrong.
 

griffer

Practically Family
Messages
752
Location
Belgrade, Serbia
The German consitution prohobits the aggrandizing or celebration of the NS state. The swatiska is verboten (forbidden) and sale and ownership of NS iems is prohibited except for historical and educational purposes.

From here, http://www.iuscomp.org/gla/statutes/StGB.htm-

§ 86 StGB Dissemination of Means of Propaganda of Unconstitutional Organizations

(1) Whoever domestically disseminates or produces, stocks, imports or exports or makes publicly accessible through data storage media for dissemination domestically or abroad, means of propaganda:

1. of a party which has been declared to be unconstitutional by the Federal Constitutional Court or a party or organization, as to which it has been determined, no longer subject to appeal, that it is a substitute organization of such a party; […]

4. means of propaganda, the contents of which are intended to further the aims of a former National Socialist organization, shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine. […]

(3) Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes. […]

§ 86a StGB Use of Symbols of Unconstitutional Organizations

(1) Whoever:

1. domestically distributes or publicly uses, in a meeting or in writings (§ 11 subsection (3)) disseminated by him, symbols of one of the parties or organizations indicated in § 86 subsection (1), nos. 1, 2 and 4; or

2. produces, stocks, imports or exports objects which depict or contain such symbols for distribution or use domestically or abroad, in the manner indicated in number 1,

shall be punished with imprisonment for not more than three years or a fine.

(2) Symbols, within the meaning of subsection (1), shall be, in particular, flags, insignia, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting. Symbols which are so similar as to be mistaken for those named in sentence 1 shall be deemed to be equivalent thereto. […]


Lots of words, but yes, it is hard to sell 1930-1945 militaria in Germany because of this ban.

But not impossible.
 

Paden

Vendor
Messages
121
Location
Germany
You can deal german WWII militaria.
But you have to check the rules.
If you sell WWII militaria, it is not allowed to show NS symbols in public.
Also the SS sign, it not allowed in car plates.

Private, you can have, as much as you want with all symbols.
It is not hard to sell that stuff in germany.
We have a lot of websides, where you can bux original stuff.

best regards,

Ingo
 

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