The People of Carnaby Street

[Baron Kurtz]

Triple pleated waistcoat number is still there . . .

bk

 

[benstephens]

Was that the one with no Trousers?

Ben

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Nope. Bespoke 3 piece grey DB made in Glasgow. Date removed from tag.

bk

 

[benstephens]

Oh, I will definitely be there Friday then. What era would you say and size?. I remember we talked over this before, but I have seen so many suits since then, I can not remember.

Ben

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Size is probably about a 38-40. I can get away with 36 and it's a bit big even by that measure.

As for era it's hard to tell - the oddest piece of tag clipping ever: remove the date, but leave the name!. It's bespoke and rooted in the past tailoring-wise, but on a second look some of the features (double vents in back, not very wide cuffs) are suggesting 60s to me. But the fabric and cut of the jacket could be anywhere from the 30s onwards. Very classic. I believe the trousers have side adjuster tabs. I think hbk has seen this suit also, so maybe his opinion would be useful.

There's also a lovely little (German?) blue DB 2 piece. A really wonderful bit of engineering. Plenty CC41 shirts and other bits 'n pieces.



bk

 

[Senator Jack]

That is a great shot, BK. Did you know you were in the exhibition, or did you just wander into the gallery and see yourself up there?

 

[Baron Kurtz]

One of the shopgirls in twinkled told me about it. She'd seen my picture up and told me to go and get it from the guy. (Would've been a much better story if i'd just stumbled upon it, but no.)

bk

 

[Edward]

Uhm.... blinding display of ignorance, but... CC41??

Yeah, that's the Merc I was thinking of - it's vintage-style rather than vintage proper, I remember now. Never wandered into it, TBH - saw some reasonably saharp looking stuff in the window, but too sixties for my taste.... TBH I'm sick to the back teeth of my parents' generation celebrating the sixties as the be all, end all of culture and everything. Vastly overrated IMO.... but hey ho.

I must check out Twinkled and the likes... as a general rule I prefer new vintage repro over genuine vintage (I know that's probably weird in these parts, but I like being able to get stuff that fits right (I find a lot of genuine vintage much too small, and generally when I can find a jacket the right size, the trousers are all too often a good eight inches too wide at the waist), plus wearing real vintage, I often have this irrational fear I'm gonig to destroy a valuable piece of history if i so much as break wind in it, you know? But if I can pick up some nice vintage stuff for the proverbial peanuts, I can always get over that!!

 

[benstephens]

CC41 was a clothing label introduced in 1941 for Civilian Clothing. The clothes were designed by top designers and were subject to Utility regulations. They used specific cloth, and meant that mass produced clothing was less complicated to produce. Further on in the war, the Utility clothing was subjected to Austerity regulations as well, when cloth was getting in short supply.

Ben

 

[Edward]

CC41 was a clothing label introduced in 1941 for Civilian Clothing. The clothes were designed by top designers and were subject to Utility regulations. They used specific cloth, and meant that mass produced clothing was less complicated to produce. Further on in the war, the Utility clothing was subjected to Austerity regulations as well, when cloth was getting in short supply.

Ben

Aha! Thanks. I was thinking contract numbers a la A2s!

 

[StanleyVanBuren]

That's a great photo & very cool that you were in an exhibition.

 

[Baron Kurtz]

It's very flattering, indeed.

I really wish, however, that i'd shaved and put on a different tie. You never know who's looking . . .

bk

 

[cookie]

The Swinging Sixties

I'm sick to the back teeth of my parents' generation celebrating the sixties as the be all, end all of culture and everything. Vastly overrated IMO.... but hey ho.

I agree entirely - Ted Nugent had some interesting things to say on this recently re death of rock star friends in 60s-70s from drugs - people with prodigious talents...then there is the wasteland that was left when the 60s pulled down everything old buildings culture family life etc and left us with the legacy of it all...to clean up... the 60s generation is totally self-indulgent to boot unlike the Golden Era...they had the lowest level of suicide recorded in the middle of the Depression...

 

[Benny Holiday]

It's very flattering, indeed.

I really wish, however, that i'd shaved and put on a different tie. You never know who's looking . . .

bk

Ah, the hat and suit make up for it. Just behave yourself Baron, it's but a small step from being an "interesting person" to a "person of interest." lol

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Ah, the hat and suit make up for it. Just behave yourself Baron, it's but a small step from being an "interesting person" to a "person of interest." lol

Yes, especially given the kind of garbage "security alerts" they're trying to get us to swallow in London right now.

bk

 

[Edward]

Yes, especially given the kind of garbage "security alerts" they're trying to get us to swallow in London right now.

Well, without getting all political on everyone..... how else do you think Gordo and the boys are gonig to make us want to give up all our civil liberties? It's certainly convenient that all these high profile terrorist attmepts came along right now!

I agree entirely - Ted Nugent had some interesting things to say on this recently re death of rock star friends in 60s-70s from drugs - people with prodigious talents...then there is the wasteland that was left when the 60s pulled down everything old buildings culture family life etc and left us with the legacy of it all...to clean up... the 60s generation is totally self-indulgent to boot unlike the Golden Era...they had the lowest level of suicide recorded in the middle of the Depression...

Interesting.... and there was me thinknig the Nuge and I would never agree on anything!! There were good things came out of the 60s, sure, but otherwise the only decade that comes close to being as overrated was the 80s...

 

[Salv]

I agree entirely - Ted Nugent had some interesting things to say on this recently re death of rock star friends in 60s-70s from drugs - people with prodigious talents...

I wonder if he has anything to say about all the talents from the "Golden Era" who destroyed themselves with drugs.

And this is the man who persuaded the parents of his under-aged girlfriend to sign custody of her over to him, so that he could continue to have sex with her without legal entanglement. Doesn't that make him an incestuous paedophile? Ah, those good ole conservative family values...

 

[Shaul-Ike Cohen]

I really wish, however, that i'd shaved and put on a different tie. You never know who's looking . . .

I take it the photographer was happy people didn't all check their appearances before.

But anyway, I'm sure at the very moment he took the picture, you (both) were observed by half a dozen security cameres.

 

[benstephens]

Yes, especially given the kind of garbage "security alerts" they're trying to get us to swallow in London right now.

bk

Dont be too quick to judge. I dont like a draconian big brother state, but if you only had a small inkling how scary it looks from the other side of the desk, you will probably think the security alerts are not often enough!

Ben

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Just plain old paranoia and scepticism re: the motives/methods of those with the power to control.

bk