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The Paradox of the Well-Dressed Man

scotrace

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Terrific!

Glad you found us. Welcome to the Fedora Lounge, Mr. PreKrime.

Now I'm sending you off to the Screen Name thread to explain that interesting nickname. :)
 

mysterygal

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scotrace said:
Somewhere, somehow, the notion took hold that clothes are just something to cover your goods. Much of what I see people in now - sweat pants, track suits and the worst - men in gym shorts and soiled t-shirts (restaurant wear), seems to just be cloth thrown over the naughty bits and out the door you go.
And some people these days just barely cover those naughty bits and pieces :rolleyes:
 

Rosie

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mysterygal said:
confidence and being well dressed go hand in hand....sloppiness makes a person look like they have no self respect for themselves so I can only imagine what that could do for their confidence level..while being immaculately dressed, you feel so much better inside and out and it radiates to those all around you which brings an irresistable charm about it. There is so much about how you dress that speaks to other people about you and how they will treat you in turn...for an experiment, I went to the mall, first time dressed so so, didn't really get all that great service, the second time, I was dressed very nice...the service I got was exceptional...almost catered to my every whim...it was actually kind of amusing :)

My mother and I were JUST talking about this. I am usually "overdressed" according to almost everyone else but usually, Easter is the day that I have company (if not in vintage dress at least in well dressed people). This year however, most of the people I saw were wearing jeans, sneakers, tank tops and shorts, I told my mom it seems as though folks don't dress up for ANYTHING anymore. Coincidentally, I saw two younger ladies (14, 15?) on Sunday and they just looked shabby, tight jeans, little t shirt I commented to my date, they look as though they don't think well of themselves, why would they come out dressed in such a way? I've also had the experience of not being dressed as I normally am and being treated differently in a store, it is quite interesting, you are very correct.
 

mysterygal

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I know, do you ever think to yourself when you see these fourteen year old,especially on Easter sunday, where were thier parents when they walked through thier front door...actually I end up asking myself almost daily when I"m out and about and see what some of these kids got on :rolleyes:
Even at nice restraunts, people, for the most part, are no longer caring to put on a dress or a nice suit...it is a big pet peeve of mine :rage:
 
mysterygal said:
I know, do you ever think to yourself when you see these fourteen year old,especially on Easter sunday, where were thier parents when they walked through thier front door...actually I end up asking myself almost daily when I"m out and about and see what some of these kids got on :rolleyes:
Even at nice restraunts, people, for the most part, are no longer caring to put on a dress or a nice suit...it is a big pet peeve of mine :rage:

Careful, the "judgement police" are going to find this comment and call you on it. ;)
I also wonder what parents think when they send their children out into the world. Perhaps they sneak by them? I see most of them shop in Britney Spears' closet. :rolleyes:

Regards to all,

J
 

Miss Neecerie

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jamespowers said:
Careful, the "judgement police" are going to find this comment and call you on it. ;)
I also wonder what parents think when they send their children out into the world. Perhaps they sneak by them? I see most of them shop in Britney Spears' closet. :rolleyes:

Regards to all,

J

I am going to claim foul here and stick my neck out and say that as a bartender I expect way better of you then to stoop to making innuendos about things I say rather then challenging me directly or PM'ing me and dealing with -me- about it. How very brave of you, since this is the second thread you have mentioned it on.

Have a nice day, or not...as the case may be.

Other bartenders, please feel free to ban me or whatever...I am tired of every one here assuming that everyone else is 'just like them'....if that's what FL is going to be....you can seriously do me the favor and just ban me.
 
Miss Neecerie said:
I am going to claim foul here and stick my neck out and say that as a bartender I expect way better of you then to stoop to making innuendos about things I say rather then challenging me directly or PM'ing me and dealing with -me- about it. How very brave of you, since this is the second thread you have mentioned it on.

Have a nice day, or not...as the case may be.

Other bartenders, please feel free to ban me or whatever...I am tired of every one here assuming that everyone else is 'just like them'....if that's what FL is going to be....you can seriously do me the favor and just ban me.

Whoa, whoa, whoa here. You weren't the only one that brought up such issues. I wasn't singling you out. It was just the general direction of the discussion. I think you read far too much into it. Remember the sarcasm part that we previously had a problem with?
I for one am not for banning you. I enjoy the discussion even if I don't agree. It makes me butress my arguments. Don't feel slighted. That was not my intention at all.

Regards,

J
 

Viola

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As a woman I do respond well to a well dressed man. It isn't effeminate to look good and smell good. Pride is good.

Foppish, in my mind, is usually found when it goes beyond the nice clothes and sharp-looking shoes and into the land of "hair product," facial scrubs, and eyeliner. My opinion is that eyeliner is for women and Johnny Depp; if you are not Johnny Depp, there's really no good time for hair beads, eyeliner, or lipgloss.

Basically my stance is a man's hair should be clean. Then maybe one thing, such as straightener. If there's more than one thing in it (i.e. highlights AND gel) besides clean, its not good. Some women would disagree, this is just me talking.
 
Viola said:
Basically my stance is a man's hair should be clean. Then maybe one thing, such as straightener. If there's more than one thing in it (i.e. highlights AND gel) besides clean, its not good. Some women would disagree, this is just me talking.

Oh good. I was getting worried about that hair product thing. I have to use that stuff to get it to lay down properly. So its a requirement for looking neat.;) Not the highlights stuff though. :p

Regards,

J
 

Viola

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jamespowers said:
Oh good. I was getting worried about that hair product thing. I have to use that stuff to get it to lay down properly. So its a requirement for looking neat.;) Not the highlights stuff though. :p

It also helps that you're using it to make your hair lay down, not make it defy gravity so you better resemble Sonic the Hedgehog, a look I see a lot on the train.

Sincerely,
Viola
 

Tony in Tarzana

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I'm of the opinion that larger folks (like myself) ought to dress a little better than the norm. There's such a thin line between "fat" and "fat slob." A nicely tailored suit (I hope to get one soon!) makes such a difference on a person of girth. ;)
 

Shaul-Ike Cohen

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Viola said:
It also helps that you're using it to make your hair lay down, not make it defy gravity so you better resemble Sonic the Hedgehog, a look I see a lot on the train.

How 'bout a hat?

My hair is very nasty indeed, but still, I never understood why I should wash my hair, only to put smeary stuff in it again.
 
Baron Kurtz said:
If you grow it long enough you can control it by tying it back ...

Maybe with a fluorescent scrunchy.

I'll get me coat ... Kurtz exeunt left

Oh HECK no!:eek: I want to look vintage not like a vintage hippie. "Honey? Bring me the bong.":p
I would use axle grease if I had to rather than let it grow long. [huh] Fortunately, American Crew Briliantine works fine. :eusa_clap

Regards,

J
 

Naama

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herringbonekid said:
“Once, sissies were mistaken for gentlemen; alas, now gentlemen are mistaken for sissies.”


personally, i don't think a man should ever be TOO pristine. even the most well dressed man, to my eye, should still have a touch of roughness somewhere, even if its just one out of place fore-lock of hair, or leather shoes that are well worn (but lovingly polished) rather than immaculate.

That's so true!

Naama
 

WoeSis

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Just found this thread

Oh, this thread is a joy! i have to agree with so many of the comments made so far. i, too, make a point of being well dressed regardless of where i am going. My work requires that i wear scrubs - so i wear pin-striped scrubs, but i still take the time and effort to do my hair in a fun style. It saddens me that so few people bother with the minimal effort needed to simply look "nice".

i raise my glass to all of you for taking more than a minimal amount of time!
 

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