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If a rapist gets the same amount of time as a robber, there is something really sick about our society. Even an armed home invasion isn't a rape...
But I am a victim whether it be through the theft of my personal belongings by the so many who need to do so support themselves or the fact that my tax dollars support them when they should go to me.
The key word here is DIRECT victim.
If a rapist gets the same amount of time as a robber, there is something really sick about our society. Even an armed home invasion isn't a rape...
I could say that directly I am a victim whether it be that I pay through taxes for their rehab, jail time, or welfare.
You could say anything you want, but that does not make it so. Being burdened indirectly by someone, such as having to pay higher taxes and premiums because of their irresponsible behavior, does not make you a direct victim, but an indirect one. In that sense we are all victims of all crimes.
I share your disgust of able-bodied people who choose to live off the welfare state. Scum of the Earth.
This isn't entirely true. There are responsible people with legitimate illnesses and ailments who are receiving relief through the use of medical marijuana; they're simply in the extreme minority of MM users.You can't convince me either as we have the canard know as medical MJ. It is nothing but an excuse for dopers to get high...
This isn't entirely true. There are responsible people with legitimate illnesses and ailments who are receiving relief through the use of medical marijuana; they're simply in the extreme minority of MM users.
Same down here near the largest outdoor insane asylum. it is laughable to think that all of these bongheads are just pitiable people trying to control their pain. Big damn deal. I control my bad back every day without so much as a pain pill. Deal with it and get to work!Around here, I would bet money (which I do not do) they are the majority. This area may be the extreme, but it does exist. And by here, I mean the area in which I work.
There is a liquid cannabinoid spray called Sativex that was recently approved in Canada and the UK that has shown promise, and is now being Phase III tested in the US. It's intended both as a pain reliever for those in cancer treatment and for the treatment of spacticity in multiple sclerosis, and has shown much promise in treating both conditions. And it offers no "high" and no possibility for diversion into the recreational market whatsoever. That's real science.
Not only should the rapist hang, so should his lawyer.
If a rapist gets the same amount of time as a robber, there is something really sick about our society. Even an armed home invasion isn't a rape...
Again, just cleaning up the record. There are many kinds of rape, robbery and marijuana possession, but I know of no jurisdiction that punishes 1st degree rape and armed robbery as if they were the same level crime. And, I know of no jurisdiction that punishes possession of marijuana as if it was the same level crime as 1st degree rape or armed robbery.
In North Carolina, 1st degree forcible rape is a B1 felony. Armed robbery is a D felony...three levels down from 1st degree rape. In order to get up to a D felony for possessing marijuana, one must possess an excess of 10,000 lbs with the intent to traffic. All other forms of marijuana possession are lesser felonies or just misdemeanors.
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Good.
However, I am really disturbed by the Steubenville, OH case. I know that they are minors, but a year for sexually assaulting a young girl while she couldn't consent? (Although I understand they could be kept up to age 21, which would be 4 or 5 years, but I'm not clear on how that would happen.)
Well, unless they're a public defendant. I think everyone should get a public defendant to make sure their interests are represented, but it turns my stomach to read of some of these cases where the person gets a fancy lawyer and they get off on a technicality. Or like the recent Steubenville Ohio rape case where the kids got a year in juvie... disgusting.
Juvenile criminal jurisprudence recognizes that juveniles lack the full capacity to formulate criminal intent. It’s the other edge of the same sword that recgonizes that juveniles lack the capacity to consent to sexual intercourse, or to live without a guardian, or to vote, or to possess certain kinds of consumer goods, or to make many other kinds of legally binding decisions.
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But never worry. The folks that exposed the boys from Steubenville are now facing some hard time (the prosecutor is asking for six years) for the crime of forcing the police to act in the case.
I think society would be a far better place if a gaping hole opened up and sucked that entire town up into an abyss. (The normal people can escape, but the nitwits stay to get sucked up.) Regular townspeople harassed that poor girl because prosecuting her rapists threatened a winning high school football team's record. The football coach refused to bench anyone who witnessed it and didn't act because he doesn't go online; he even came out and implied that there was nothing wrong with what happened. All for a lousy high school football team.
While I understand why the juvenile justice system exists, I fail to comprehend how a 16-year-old or a 17-year-old can receive a one-year sentence, with the ability to extend to 5 years (when they are 21). I fail to comprehend how rape isn't an offense that would at least require them to be kept 2 to 3 years at a minimum. Under what circumstances will their sentence be extended?