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The general decline in standards today

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I like taking my son to a school with standards, dress, tardiness, bad behavior etc., etc. are dealt with quickly. :p

Me too. Mine just graduated this year from a certain local Christian school. Along with the merit/demerits and rules was also much love..hugs..and tears of fondness/pride/caring in his various teacher's eyes for 13 yrs.
In kindergarten(all the way through grade school)..the little girls filed out of the classroom first...as the little gentlemen lined up last with their arms folded behind their backs. Jr High/HS students also took time to naturally help with concern for underclassmates as well. It was a balance of no nonsense rules..and concern for each other. So glad that I made that choice.
 

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My sister and I attended one of these schools from elementary through high school.
We both feel fortunate to have done this, and we both realize why our parents did without certain things throughout our early lives, in order to give us a great education, as well as manners.
 
Me too. Mine just graduated this year from a certain local Christian school. Along with the merit/demerits and rules was also much love..hugs..and tears of fondness/pride/caring in his various teacher's eyes for 13 yrs.
In kindergarten(all the way through grade school)..the little girls filed out of the classroom first...as the little gentlemen lined up last with their arms folded behind their backs. Jr High/HS students also took time to naturally help with concern for underclassmates as well. It was a balance of no nonsense rules..and concern for each other. So glad that I made that choice.

Sounds a lot like my sons' school. It is worth it.
In the other school it was insane. They couldn't control the classroom. My son was learning nothing and brought home tons of homework that I had to teach him how to do. They were there just there marking time. They even graduated him to the next grade! It was insane. I had to do something and I am glad I did.
 

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Check your parochial schools carefully before you make your choice. I attended a Christian all-boys' school from 7th through 12th grade. Five years before I arrived, it had been a Christian military school (yes, they do exist), and some of the military hazing was still being done. 7th graders were individually "scrubbed" -- that is, they were grabbed by four or five 8th graders, dragged into a toilet stall, and the tops of their heads were used to "scrub" the toilet bowl.


Did this parochial school do anything to stop such an idiotic "tradition"? No, nothing at all. Parent who complained were told by administrators that it built esprit de corps and "toughness of character". All it did, in fact, was make 7th graders hate 8th graders ... and, perversely, it made those same 7th graders look forward to doing it to next year's 7th graders.
 
Check your parochial schools carefully before you make your choice. I attended a Christian all-boys' school from 7th through 12th grade. Five years before I arrived, it had been a Christian military school (yes, they do exist), and some of the military hazing was still being done. 7th graders were individually "scrubbed" -- that is, they were grabbed by four or five 8th graders, dragged into a toilet stall, and the tops of their heads were used to "scrub" the toilet bowl.


Did this parochial school do anything to stop such an idiotic "tradition"? No, nothing at all. Parent who complained were told by administrators that it built esprit de corps and "toughness of character". All it did, in fact, was make 7th graders hate 8th graders ... and, perversely, it made those same 7th graders look forward to doing it to next year's 7th graders.

In contrast to some poor kid getting that every day in public schools............
 

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When I was at school in the 1960s and 1970s, "milder" penalties, included, as mentioned above, having to do 25-50 press ups/push ups, picking up litter/trash, staying behind after school for anything from 30 mins to 2 hours in dentention having to write out large quantities of lines, or having to do a very long essay or hard maths without calculators.
 
When I was at school in the 1960s and 1970s, "milder" penalties, included, as mentioned above, having to do 25-50 press ups/push ups, picking up litter/trash, staying behind after school for anything from 30 mins to 2 hours in dentention having to write out large quantities of lines, or having to do a very long essay or hard maths without calculators.

They let you use calculators in school?! That was something reserved for calculus and business math when I was in school.
 
When I was in junior high/high school having a calculator was something of a status symbol. Sort of like the 64 count box of crayons of the earlier school years. :p

I was probably the first person to have one as my father worked for the Feds and they gave them out. It didn't help. I couldn't use it in school anyway and my parents wouldn't let me use it at home. :p
 

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They let you use calculators in school?! That was something reserved for calculus and business math when I was in school.

No they did not let us use calculators in school when I was there, infact they were only just coming onto the market when I was at school. If one did get caught using one, it would be taken away and you would have to do the whole lesson all over again after school, without the calculator....(In fact, I had to go to an interview for a new job only a few days ago and had to take a maths test, with no calculator and without being big headed, I did get the answers all correct;) I was never very good at maths, but when we in the UK had (Proper money) the old pre-decimal Pounds, shillings and pence and no calculators, I could alway work out my pocket money correctly.

Another school penalty we had, was having to go to Saturday morning detentions, when the other kids were playing football/rugby/cricket etc.

Someone I know was outraged recently when he got detention for a massive 10 minutes! hardly seemed worth it really.
 
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We had no detention, got no punishments besides a stern talking-to and were allowed to use calculators once we got into the higher math and physics (between ages 16 and 19, I specialised in maths/physics/chemistry and then we could use calculators) but not those that could make curves. Don't see the problem. However, I overheard two youngsters on the bus the other day, talking about tests, and they apparently got multiple choice tests! :eeek: Really, our academic standards have obviously slipped because that would never have been allowed in school when I grew up.
 

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We had detention, but during it the kids sniffed glue and shot dice in the back of the detention room. Or so they tell me anyway.

We were the last class to be instructed in the use of the slide rule, but it didn't help me any. I still can't do any math beyond fourth-grade addition, subtraction, and multiplication.
 

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The great thing with slide rules was that there was lots of space on the back to write a lot of formulas, equations and other notes before the exam. Couldn't do that on the back of the old HP calculators.
 

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school in the UK right up to the mid 1980's was still very Victorian with punishments to suit....I remember having the board rubber thrown at me, being clipped around the ear was a regular bit of fun for the teachers as was kicking students up the jacksie, in woodwork our teacher Mr Wood (seriously) used to hit you with a piece of 3"x2" until you took woodwork as a subject then you just got clipped around the ear for a change, cane was often dished out with the same names in the caning book over and over....1' rule was quite nice when used edge on across your finger nails but the greatest leveler I remember was in junior (primary) school when we were in class and were allowed to use pastel sticks for the first time( the ones you can dip in water) it didn't take us long to discover that when one was dropped into the water that it would dissolve, result at the lesson end was a jam jar full of brown sludge and me and 3 mates all with empty pastel packets and brown slime all over our faces and clothes....our teacher was a canny fellow from the North East of England and his punishment to us was for us all to line up facing the pile of wooden milk crates that were near the door/corner of the room he then took a good run up and kneed eacj and every one of us up the derriere resulting in us all ending up in a crumpled heap on top of each other, the class found it hilarious us less so but it kept us in check for a while!
 
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