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The future. Repro's sold as Originals?

rocketeer

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I have just spent a few minutes scanning through the various repro jackets from various companies and have noticed the obsession with originality in labels stitch work, cottons and tanning methods etc. Nothing wrong with that really.
But what if the jacket is treated how it should be or would have been in days gone by. That is to say, you are wearing your (for example only) your Goodwear A2 original contract repro and you do all the things a young man on discharge from the military would possibly do. Play baseball in it, use it as a marker for a field game, get under a car in it etc, same with your reproduction Buco J24. You ride your bike and fix it wearing this jacket for most of your life then pass it down through the family.
Will this item gain the patina of life and one day be able to pass as original? Will anybody be able to tell repro from original?
I have an Eastman B3 Roughwear, I dont treat it badly but it gets worn to walk the dog and lounge about in when it's cold, there are bald spots where originals have them and the only thing to really tell them apart is the finish and the fact it is clean.
So the question is, how do you tell a new un from an old un in 30 years with 30 years of wear ingrained. Would you care?
Johnny T
 

p51

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Nothing new here. For example, so much reproduction Civil War stuff has been made for over 50 years now and much of it spot-on. After that much time, some of the earlier reproduction stuff that was made well could easily be passed off as original 1860s stuff now. I have an original cartidge cap box and a reproduction made in the early 1970s that was used for many years. Today, you'd never be able to to tell which is original and which is repro when placed side-by-side.
 

Blackadder

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I've been thinking about that. The repros now will be vintage one day. As we speak, ppl are comparing the original Real McCoy to the new RM.
 
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I have just spent a few minutes scanning through the various repro jackets from various companies and have noticed the obsession with originality in labels stitch work, cottons and tanning methods etc. Nothing wrong with that really. But what if the jacket is treated how it should be or would have been in days gone by. That is to say, you are wearing your (for example only) your Goodwear A2 original contract repro and you do all the things a young man on discharge from the military would possibly do. Play baseball in it, use it as a marker for a field game, get under a car in it etc, same with your reproduction Buco J24. You ride your bike and fix it wearing this jacket for most of your life then pass it down through the family.Will this item gain the patina of life and one day be able to pass as original? Will anybody be able to tell repro from original?I have an Eastman B3 Roughwear, I dont treat it badly but it gets worn to walk the dog and lounge about in when it's cold, there are bald spots where originals have them and the only thing to really tell them apart is the finish and the fact it is clean.So the question is, how do you tell a new un from an old un in 30 years with 30 years of wear ingrained. Would you care?Johnny T
I think at that point, the experts will know the differences, and not many others will care. I believe that interest will go way down over time - especially as prices rise. It will be a small group of collectors who have the knowledge, money and interest that will be the market. Hell, even this iconic piece (price seems high, but not in this realm of collectors) did not make reserve.http://acn.liveauctioneers.com/inde...-jima-statue-falls-short-of-reserve-at-950000There have always been and always will be fakes. The rules never change. Provenance is of the utmost importance when paying top-dollar/yen/pound for a collector's item.
 

B-24J

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I think at that point, the experts will know the differences, and not many others will care. I believe that interest will go way down over time - especially as prices rise. It will be a small group of collectors who have the knowledge, money and interest that will be the market. Hell, even this iconic piece (price seems high, but not in this realm of collectors) did not make reserve.http://acn.liveauctioneers.com/inde...-jima-statue-falls-short-of-reserve-at-950000There have always been and always will be fakes. The rules never change. Provenance is of the utmost importance when paying top-dollar/yen/pound for a collector's item.

Perfectly said!

John
 

majormajor

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Repros passed off as originals in 30 years?

Very likely, but it will only be the aged folks on that old FL site that give a flying ****:eeek::D;)
 

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