The End is Near!

[Lady Day]

Underwear has already been on top, at least for women. Corset tops and slip dresses...remember the 90s?

These Jimjams are way better than most clothes people wear. I just cant get over this phenomenon to make casual the new formal. Why not just dress formal? Then youd really be ahead of the curve!

LD

 

[Bourbon Guy]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_france_fashion_yohji_yamamoto;_ylt=AsD2ckSrlS1ezBNGbsQFHTHBaMYA

Could not figure out where to put this so move it or delete it. I remember there was a similar thread somewhere earlier. :eusa_doh:
Just how awful is this?

It is the logical end that begins with wearing brown shoes with blue suits, and hats indoors.

 

[BinkieBaumont]

Beach Pyjamas of the 30's

 

[Baron Kurtz]

but, but, those are women! We can't possiby have men wearing silk out of doors, because thats women's wear. What will people think?

[sarcasm off] (it says an awful lot about this place that i have to say [sarcasm off])

Though he doesn't spell it out for you (tut, tut, bad Yohji[bad], expecting people to think!), he throws out a hint of what he's getting at …

"I was looking for the very most luxurious moment and I found it's before sleeping …"

Why should we, says Yamamoto, (clearly he didn't say it in this article, before someone fails to understand that this is my understanding of his meaning) resign luxury - for men - to the bedroom, and for times when we're asleep or not fully awake?

We consign men, if they are unfortunate enough to work in a clothing-obsessed hierarchy, to drab colours. Certain boring shades of blue or grey are generally accepted, whereas black is often frowned upon, and brown will likely get you removed from the building by security due to some foolish twisting of the "no brown in town" maxim. Go down to "The Square Mile" once in a while and see the herds of young men, all wearing exactly the same small range colours and patterns - suit, tie, shirt, shoes - and all looking desperately uncomfortable in their suits. And then search out the herds of slightly older men - a rung up on the ladder from our younger chums of the last sentence - wearing different, but still highly regimented range of colours and patterns. All looking as unhappy as the younger men in their enforced clothing. We seem to be onto a trend, and it is as insidious as it is counterproductive.

Why is it that workplaces insist their male employees look like every other male employee - even down to the haircut in many establishments? Whereas female employees have much more latitude in terms of fabric, pattern, and colour. Smacks of inequality to me …

bk

 

[Edward]

but, but, those are women! We can't possiby have men wearing silk out of doors, because thats women's wear. What will people think?

That this is next? :

lol

You make a number of very valid points, not least about the restrictive conservatism of men's workdress. My office is just behind Holborn station - the number of city people I see who might as well be in a uniform (even the ties look little different from each other) is simply mind-boggling.... I've certainly seen this pass on into the market - how many stores have you see where the only shirt design you can buy is the 'city shirt' - double cuffs, full cutaway collar, the only variation being the available colours? - which of course helps to perpetuate the whole thing, a vicious circle.

fftopic:

Nothing worse than bad tattoos.

Au contraire.... I would point you to the genre of badly done paramilitary tattoos sported by those too thick and ignorant to comprehend the historical origins of the tribal loyalties they blurrily proclaim on their own skin....

It's that sort of thing that is largely responsibly, IMO, for the negative image of tattoos held by the establishment today.

 

[Tomasso]

Catwalk fashion is, after all, hardly meant to be worn on the streets.

This bears reiteration.

 

[Sefton]

"It is the logical end that begins with wearing brown shoes with blue suits, and hats indoors." -bourbon guy

Sorry, I must be a bit tired today. I didn't get it that you were being facetious earlier when you wrote that. Not that brown with blue is a serious issue, of course. Just personal preference.

 

[ortega76]

Nothing wrong with brown shoes worn with blue suits. Just my opinion and the opinion of well dressed dead men from 60 years ago and the (at that time) worthwhile fashion magazines that they took their cues from. Current mileage may of course vary.

Oh, and just say no to hats indoors.

I love a great brown shoe with a navy suit for daytime wear! It looks great with a dark brown lid.

 

[ortega76]

fftopic:



Au contraire.... I would point you to the genre of badly done paramilitary tattoos sported by those too thick and ignorant to comprehend the historical origins of the tribal loyalties they blurrily proclaim on their own skin....

It's that sort of thing that is largely responsibly, IMO, for the negative image of tattoos held by the establishment today.

Hmm. Good point. My personal pet peeve are the poorly done, jail house tribal tattoo.

 

[Sefton]

but, but, those are women! We can't possiby have men wearing silk out of doors, because thats women's wear. What will people think?

[sarcasm off] (it says an awful lot about this place that i have to say [sarcasm off])

Though he doesn't spell it out for you (tut, tut, bad Yohji[bad], expecting people to think!), he throws out a hint of what he's getting at …



Why should we, says Yamamoto, (clearly he didn't say it in this article, before someone fails to understand that this is my understanding of his meaning) resign luxury - for men - to the bedroom, and for times when we're asleep or not fully awake?

We consign men, if they are unfortunate enough to work in a clothing-obsessed hierarchy, to drab colours. Certain boring shades of blue or grey are generally accepted, whereas black is often frowned upon, and brown will likely get you removed from the building by security due to some foolish twisting of the "no brown in town" maxim. Go down to "The Square Mile" once in a while and see the herds of young men, all wearing exactly the same small range colours and patterns - suit, tie, shirt, shoes - and all looking desperately uncomfortable in their suits. And then search out the herds of slightly older men - a rung up on the ladder from our younger chums of the last sentence - wearing different, but still highly regimented range of colours and patterns. All looking as unhappy as the younger men in their enforced clothing. We seem to be onto a trend, and it is as insidious as it is counterproductive.

Why is it that workplaces insist their male employees look like every other male employee - even down to the haircut in many establishments? Whereas female employees have much more latitude in terms of fabric, pattern, and colour. Smacks of inequality to me …

bk

Isn't it wonderful that there was a time when men's suiting came with so much more variety of color and pattern? This is one of the chief reasons why I spend too much time and energy (and $$$-just ask my wife) looking for vintage items to add to my wardrobe. I want more from my clothes than the boring and stingy choices that are available now. When I'm out in a vintage suit with all the accessories I've no doubt that to most other people I must look just as strange and out of place as a man wearing something from Mr.Yamamoto. It seems to me that there is just about as much chance of wearing pajamas in public becoming the norm as there is of wearing a 1930's peaked lapel suit with fedora,wing-tips and tie; none whatsoever.

 

[Bourbon Guy]

I love a great brown shoe with a navy suit for daytime wear! It looks great with a dark brown lid.

No. It doesn't.

 

[Bourbon Guy]

"It is the logical end that begins with wearing brown shoes with blue suits, and hats indoors." -bourbon guy

Sorry, I must be a bit tired today. I didn't get it that you were being facetious earlier when you wrote that. Not that brown with blue is a serious issue, of course. Just personal preference.

I wasn't.

 

[ortega76]

No. It doesn't.

Then we must agree to disagree. [huh]

 

[K.D. Lightner]

Some years ago, Lane Bryant sold some women's clothing as "loungewear" and advertised it as something you could wear to bed, or wear it around the house, or even out in public.

I did buy a couple of outfits, but never would wear it in public. The fact I wore it to bed stopped me cold. Maybe no one else would know, but I knew, and that was enough to keep me from appearing in public.

I have seen some people in sportswear that made me wonder if it was actually, uh, loungewear.

karol

 

[Bourbon Guy]

Then we must agree to disagree. [huh]

My new best friend. I have agreed to disagree with many over the years. Most just flame me. I'm always trying to flush them out.

 

[ortega76]

My new best friend. I have agreed to disagree with many over the years. Most just flame me. I'm always trying to flush them out.

Ah, civility is a lost virtue and highly valued on this board.

 

[Sefton]

My new best friend. I have agreed to disagree with many over the years. Most just flame me. I'm always trying to flush them out.

No offense taken here either. Now back to the PJs.

 

[BinkieBaumont]

I think an open toe court shoe with an "Appropriate" heel can look very masculine on the right guy

 

[HungaryTom]

"Do you think they know something we don't?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlK0yXlfgKI

 

[Edward]

Binkie, trust me..... you ain't seen butch til you've seen me in stacked platform heels and a corset....