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The Decline of Marriage in the United States

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Riposte3

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Pilgrim said:
Is it because of changes in lifestyle? Bad experiences in ones' past (after all, there are more divorced people around than ever before)? Increase in gay couples living together (that's a strong indication in the report)? People waiting longer to get married?

The part about gay couples is interesting. Were they included in previous surveys? If not, then including them in this one would skew the results compared to the earlier surveys. Frankly, for the purposes of this survey the number of unmarried gay couples is irrelevant data. Why? Because (except in Massachusetts) they aren't choosing not to get married, they are not allowed to get married. Thus, the number used to support the claim (that more than half the population prefers not to marry) is based partially on data that is not relevant to the premise.

That being said, I do believe that if the numbers were rerun without the data on gay couples the results would be very similar, although they may not pass the 50% mark. I also believe the trend would be about the same.

-Jake
 

Hondo

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Riposte3 said:
The part about gay couples is interesting. Were they included in previous surveys? If not, then including them in this one would skew the results compared to the earlier surveys. Frankly, for the purposes of this survey the number of unmarried gay couples is irrelevant data. Why? Because (except in Massachusetts) they aren't choosing not to get married, they are not allowed to get married. Thus, the number used to support the claim (that more than half the population prefers not to marry) is based partially on data that is not relevant to the premise.

That being said, I do believe that if the numbers were rerun without the data on gay couples the results would be very similar, although they may not pass the 50% mark. I also believe the trend would be about the same.

-Jake

They are a strange lot at least the one around where I work, I mean I see no romantic vibes, unmarried or those who are, it seems more like a partnership with them, far different than with straights.
I wish I could understand the female mind, those that go bisexual [huh]
 

Viola

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Hondo said:
They are a strange lot at least the one around where I work, I mean I see no romantic vibes, unmarried or those who are, it seems more like a partnership with them, far different than with straights.
I wish I could understand the female mind, those that go bisexual [huh]

I know a few committed gay couples, (both gay and lesbian) and they're about as romantic as any marriage I see; no kissyface in public but as far as I'm concerned that's all to the good, gay or straight TMI is TMI.

Lots of love and respect, though. And one couple's been together 20+ years and raised kids together; it doesn't get much more monogamous.

Not much different that straights? [huh] Except, you know, problems with putting your spouse on your health insurance and bureaucratic BS of that nature.

Viola
 

Hondo

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Viola said:
I know a few committed gay couples, (both gay and lesbian) and they're about as romantic as any marriage I see; no kissyface in public but as far as I'm concerned that's all to the good, gay or straight TMI is TMI.

Lots of love and respect, though. And one couple's been together 20+ years and raised kids together; it doesn't get much more monogamous.

Not much different that straights? [huh] Except, you know, problems with putting your spouse on your health insurance and bureaucratic BS of that nature.

Viola
Yeah thats true, I really have no problems with Gays, the ones who stay together 20+ yrs and as long as they pay their taxes, so much the better, wish them well. I'm just puzzled at bisexuals, you know going both ways? Thats crazy, when you find out the gal you've been seeing is bisexual, your heart sinks, I’m way beyond emotion arguments, being angry won't do any good, but being deceived, that hurts. Waste of time, money? [huh]
I enjoy good company as long as your honest about who and what you are. I'll move on, and forget it, another of lifes lessons.
If you want a marriage to last, a 3 way thing isn't going to work, thats what I mean by strange. This world just keeps getting crazy!
 
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