Thanks, Stefan.
The black and white two tone middle material stitching is not something I've seen before. Quite unique in itself.
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The black and white two tone middle material stitching is not something I've seen before. Quite unique in itself.
It's rare for sure. Some makers use two tone piping on liners here and there, but rarely in this way. I think Steve @mayserwegener has a hat with a similar decorative liner. Have to dig deep to see if I even have one myself.
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Stefan, Steve @Steve1857 , Super find Steve! I have a Soft Felt Velour (see below) that has a very similar liner and most likely came from the same hat company. It looks like it's Fur Felt. Is that the case?It's rare for sure. Some makers use two tone piping on liners here and there, but rarely in this way. I think Steve @mayserwegener has a hat with a similar decorative liner. Have to dig deep to see if I even have one myself.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/386-corona-deutsche-wertarbeit-german-quality/
The 3 Gate Towers Coat of Arms /Wappen on Steve' Stiff Felt Liner could point to a Guben source which would make sense. I believe there is another example with the 3 Gate Towers.
Coat of Arms of the City of Guben
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Indeed, a fantastic liner as well.
Thanks for the information, Steve. Most useful.Stefan, Steve @Steve1857 , Super find Steve! I have a Soft Felt Velour (see below) that has a very similar liner and most likely came from the same hat company. It looks like it's Fur Felt. Is that the case?
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/386-corona-deutsche-wertarbeit-german-quality/
The 3 Gate Towers Coat of Arms /Wappen on Steve' Stiff Felt Liner could point to a Guben source which would make sense. I believe there is another example with the 3 Gate Towers.
Coat of Arms of the City of Guben
This one is indeed fur felt.
You'll have to go digging in the pile, Stefan
The piping on the Bowlers is somewhat more intricate with alternate colours on either side of the material.
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A great bowler, Steve! The liner design is indeed the icing on the cake
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Steve, So is my Velour. Awhile ago I collected all the hats that have the "Arbeits No." paper label. My Velour is missing the paper labels but the construction is similar. I will make a follow up post. Would it be possible to post your Stiff Felt in the German - Austrian thread? It would make more sense to discuss there. Thanks!
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My Velour is a very similar design. As I mentioned above, I think it's best to move this to the German - Austrian thread.You'll have to go digging in the pile, Stefan
The piping on the Bowlers is somewhat more intricate with alternate colours on either side of the material.
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Stefan, There might be others. I was thinking it would be good to move this dicussion to the German - Austrian thread because I have some other information too add.
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Panos, I remember that one!That's Awesome
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A. Trahy PLZEN PILSEN "Weiner Spezialität", Wool, 58cm possibly later 1920s early 1930s. This Stiff Felt was sourced by A. Trahy PLZEN PILSEN (Bohemia) but I am not sure from what Austrian company (see below). This black Wool Felt has a very nice hand and is very dense.
I did some searching and I found another Wool Stiff Felt of mine with the same Paper Label format and matching "Farbe" (Color) and "Form." numbers. The Forms, Liners and Bow Designs are also similar.
The only difference is the above Paper Label has St. Veit (Sankt / Saint Veit) in the far left corner. Sankt Veit an der Glan Schafrasse is a small town in the South East corner of Austria and I couldn't find any Felt Hat production in the town. My guess is this is the source of the Wool used for the Felt. This Wool Stiff Felt was sold by a shop (Ludovikus Hagens Wwe) in a small town (Lustenau, Voralberg) in the upper North West corner of Austria.
https://germanaustrianhats.invision...veit-ludovikus-hagens-wwe-lustenau-voralberg/
I did some searching and I found another Wool Stiff Felt of mine with the same Paper Label format and matching "Farbe" (Color) and "Form." numbers. The Forms, Liners and Bow Designs are also similar.
The only difference is the above Paper Label has St. Veit (Sankt / Saint Veit) in the far left corner. Sankt Veit an der Glan Schafrasse is a small town in the South East corner of Austria and I couldn't find any Felt Hat production in the town. My guess is this is the source of the Wool used for the Felt. This Wool Stiff Felt was sold by a shop (Ludovikus Hagens Wwe) in a small town (Lustenau, Voralberg) in the upper North West corner of Austria.
https://germanaustrianhats.invision...veit-ludovikus-hagens-wwe-lustenau-voralberg/
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Borsalino Galmoela bowler. Size 58 with the brim at 5,2cm and the crown at 13cm. This one has some age to it and is not in pristine condition. It may have had a liner, but it's no longer there and it has received some bumps in its past it seems. Very thin felt with a nice hand to it as one would expect from Borsalino. It is a model we have not seen before and it does feature a very nice decorative sweatband (can't quite make out the words though). With the separate size label it's late thirties for this one.
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A very interesting sweatband, Stefan. I often wonder if that style actually improves the fit.
Borsalino Galmoela bowler. Size 58 with the brim at 5,2cm and the crown at 13cm. This one has some age to it and is not in pristine condition. It may have had a liner, but it's no longer there and it has received some bumps in its past it seems. Very thin felt with a nice hand to it as one would expect from Borsalino. It is a model we have not seen before and it does feature a very nice decorative sweatband (can't quite make out the words though). With the separate size label it's late thirties for this one.
Thanks, Randy. Don't think it has much effect on fit. Ventilation maybe, but not fit.
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Mid-to-late 1930s Stetson Excellent Quality Feather Weight. Size 7-1/4. This hat store was down the road from the Stetson factory — I wonder if it was some sort of special order as I’ve not seen a three-color logo debossing like this.
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