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The Bowler or Derby Hat

Rmccamey

I'll Lock Up
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5,818
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Central Texas
"Deutsches Fabrikat", 58 cm, 119 grams, possibly 1930s. No company labels so most likely sourced by the shop Emil Fischer Dortmund (see Case below). The Black Fur Felt has a unique Chamois Finish with a very soft Hand. The condition is near NOS condition which along with the Finish attracted me to this Stiff Felt.

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Original Case, Emil Fischer Dortmund Wiss - Str 26 - 28

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Another beauty, Steve. One of these days you are going to have too many bowlers (if that is possible) and you will have to send a few my way for storage :)
 
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18,378
Location
Nederland
Clarence Epsom bowler in a size 56. Bound brim at 5cm and the crown at about 12cm. This one fits me like a glove and has some really wonderful feeling felt. There are 17 bowlers in my collection and none of them fit me as well as this one does. Couple it with nice finishing and great felt and you've got yourself a winner. Hard to say where it was made to be honest as there are no labels under the sweat.

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17,466
Location
Maryland
Clarence Epsom bowler in a size 56. Bound brim at 5cm and the crown at about 12cm. This one fits me like a glove and has some really wonderful feeling felt. There are 17 bowlers in my collection and none of them fit me as well as this one does. Couple it with nice finishing and great felt and you've got yourself a winner. Hard to say where it was made to be honest as there are no labels under the sweat.

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Stefan, Fantastic! It's in great condition. Major bonus points for comfortable fit! Look forward to seeing it in action!
 

Rmccamey

I'll Lock Up
Messages
5,818
Location
Central Texas
A rare Stetsonian bowler, Royal Stetson Deluxe. Dimensions are typical; 4 3/4 crown, dimensional D'Orsay brim, 1 inch black ribbon. The felt is smoother than I was expecting. The crown has some waves, but a little steam will correct those. The orange and red tags are intact but the red tag is "glued" to the liner, so this is the best picture I will be able to get. I do not see any other numbers or codes on the sweat. The tag on the inside of the sweat is perforated, so maybe it had a price tag that was removed? The size 7 is small on my noggin', as expected, but I could not let this one go by!

1940's perhaps?

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Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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8,813
Location
Denmark
A rare Stetsonian bowler, Royal Stetson Deluxe. Dimensions are typical; 4 3/4 crown, dimensional D'Orsay brim, 1 inch black ribbon. The felt is smoother than I was expecting. The crown has some waves, but a little steam will correct those. The orange and red tags are intact but the red tag is "glued" to the liner, so this is the best picture I will be able to get. I do not see any other numbers or codes on the sweat. The tag on the inside of the sweat is perforated, so maybe it had a price tag that was removed? The size 7 is small on my noggin', as expected, but I could not let this one go by!

1940's perhaps?

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Wonderful find, Randy. I can recommend my "baking" technique to loosen up that beauty and tweak it so it fits.
 
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17,466
Location
Maryland
J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume", 58 cm, F.P. 5 1/2, 128 grams possibly early 1930s maybe late 1920s. The Stiff Felt came with an original J. Hückel´s Söhne internal wood frame Cardboard Box (see below) which is something I have been looking for many years. The Stiff Felt is in mint condition and overall is really fantastic (one of my finest). The black Felt has a great finish and is light in weight. The black Liner has a gold embossed JHS Crest that is offset by a off white textured + decorated Sweatband. The Bow design unique + striking. Also came with a JHS external Paper Size Tag (see below) which is also an item that I have been looking for a long time. The shop that sold all this was located in Užhorod, Czechoslovakia which was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire up to 1919 and today Ukraine. This all came from a Czech source.

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J. Hückel´s Söhne External Pape Size Tag. It was folded at the line and tab placed under the bottom of the Band / Ribbon.

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There is only a tiny portion of the Paper Label left.

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Vented Spacers were behind the rear of the Sweatband. Their installation most likely caused the missing Paper Label. Highly possible they were supplied to the shop by JHS.

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J. Hückel´s Söhne Cardboard Box

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J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume" surrounded by original tissue paper.

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Here are similar J. Hückel´s Söhne Carboard Boxes but from the early 1900s.

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Mean Eyed Matt

One Too Many
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1,142
Location
Germany
J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume", 58 cm, F.P. 5 1/2, 128 grams possibly early 1930s maybe late 1920s. The Stiff Felt came with an original J. Hückel´s Söhne internal wood frame Cardboard Box (see below) which is something I have been looking for many years. The Stiff Felt is in mint condition and overall is really fantastic (one of my finest). The black Felt has a great finish and is light in weight. The black Liner has a gold embossed JHS Crest that is offset by a off white textured + decorated Sweatband. The Bow design unique + striking. Also came with a JHS external Paper Size Tag (see below) which is also an item that I have been looking for a long time. The shop that sold all this was located in Užhorod, Czechoslovakia which was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire up to 1919 and today Ukraine. This all came from a Czech source.

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52777169607_b8fb13c9c9_h.jpg


52777114342_22d964e8d5_h.jpg


52778069190_61fe5865f1_h.jpg


52777924794_c364c676d7_h.jpg


52778081985_46a1ae1074_h.jpg


52777917469_faa00c755d_h.jpg


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J. Hückel´s Söhne External Pape Size Tag. It was folded at the line and tab placed under the bottom of the Band / Ribbon.

52777790486_31fa2bdd8f_h.jpg


There is only a tiny portion of the Paper Label left.

52777673646_a410c43eaf_h.jpg


Vented Spacers were behind the rear of the Sweatband. Their installation most likely caused the missing Paper Label. Highly possible they were supplied to the shop by JHS.

52777677281_0a81d9e538_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne Cardboard Box

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52777684116_1590eab5cf_h.jpg


52778107155_25d1ab46cc_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume" surrounded by original tissue paper.

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Here are similar J. Hückel´s Söhne Carboard Boxes but from the early 1900s.

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Won-der-ful! Steve, this is all together the best I've seen for a long time! Congratulations on this find.
 

Rmccamey

I'll Lock Up
Messages
5,818
Location
Central Texas
Another amazing bowler, Steve.

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume", 58 cm, F.P. 5 1/2, 128 grams possibly early 1930s maybe late 1920s. The Stiff Felt came with an original J. Hückel´s Söhne internal wood frame Cardboard Box (see below) which is something I have been looking for many years. The Stiff Felt is in mint condition and overall is really fantastic (one of my finest). The black Felt has a great finish and is light in weight. The black Liner has a gold embossed JHS Crest that is offset by a off white textured + decorated Sweatband. The Bow design unique + striking. Also came with a JHS external Paper Size Tag (see below) which is also an item that I have been looking for a long time. The shop that sold all this was located in Užhorod, Czechoslovakia which was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire up to 1919 and today Ukraine. This all came from a Czech source.

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52777169607_b8fb13c9c9_h.jpg


52777114342_22d964e8d5_h.jpg


52778069190_61fe5865f1_h.jpg


52777924794_c364c676d7_h.jpg


52778081985_46a1ae1074_h.jpg


52777917469_faa00c755d_h.jpg


52778142428_571b822f58_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne External Pape Size Tag. It was folded at the line and tab placed under the bottom of the Band / Ribbon.

52777790486_31fa2bdd8f_h.jpg


There is only a tiny portion of the Paper Label left.

52777673646_a410c43eaf_h.jpg


Vented Spacers were behind the rear of the Sweatband. Their installation most likely caused the missing Paper Label. Highly possible they were supplied to the shop by JHS.

52777677281_0a81d9e538_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne Cardboard Box

52778097080_f44ecd5753_h.jpg


52777684116_1590eab5cf_h.jpg


52778107155_25d1ab46cc_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume" surrounded by original tissue paper.

52777159577_8d0e582a17_h.jpg


Here are similar J. Hückel´s Söhne Carboard Boxes but from the early 1900s.

52778288305_4f6787f8ef_b.jpg
 

Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
Messages
8,813
Location
Denmark
J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume", 58 cm, F.P. 5 1/2, 128 grams possibly early 1930s maybe late 1920s. The Stiff Felt came with an original J. Hückel´s Söhne internal wood frame Cardboard Box (see below) which is something I have been looking for many years. The Stiff Felt is in mint condition and overall is really fantastic (one of my finest). The black Felt has a great finish and is light in weight. The black Liner has a gold embossed JHS Crest that is offset by a off white textured + decorated Sweatband. The Bow design unique + striking. Also came with a JHS external Paper Size Tag (see below) which is also an item that I have been looking for a long time. The shop that sold all this was located in Užhorod, Czechoslovakia which was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire up to 1919 and today Ukraine. This all came from a Czech source.

52778123128_485132bb2d_h.jpg


52777169607_b8fb13c9c9_h.jpg


52777114342_22d964e8d5_h.jpg


52778069190_61fe5865f1_h.jpg


52777924794_c364c676d7_h.jpg


52778081985_46a1ae1074_h.jpg


52777917469_faa00c755d_h.jpg


52778142428_571b822f58_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne External Pape Size Tag. It was folded at the line and tab placed under the bottom of the Band / Ribbon.

52777790486_31fa2bdd8f_h.jpg


There is only a tiny portion of the Paper Label left.

52777673646_a410c43eaf_h.jpg


Vented Spacers were behind the rear of the Sweatband. Their installation most likely caused the missing Paper Label. Highly possible they were supplied to the shop by JHS.

52777677281_0a81d9e538_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne Cardboard Box

52778097080_f44ecd5753_h.jpg


52777684116_1590eab5cf_h.jpg


52778107155_25d1ab46cc_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume" surrounded by original tissue paper.

52777159577_8d0e582a17_h.jpg


Here are similar J. Hückel´s Söhne Carboard Boxes but from the early 1900s.

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A wonderful new addition, Steve. Looks pristine. Love the ribbon and bow treatment, and what a great bonus with the box.

Congrats.
 
J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume", 58 cm, F.P. 5 1/2, 128 grams possibly early 1930s maybe late 1920s. The Stiff Felt came with an original J. Hückel´s Söhne internal wood frame Cardboard Box (see below) which is something I have been looking for many years. The Stiff Felt is in mint condition and overall is really fantastic (one of my finest). The black Felt has a great finish and is light in weight. The black Liner has a gold embossed JHS Crest that is offset by a off white textured + decorated Sweatband. The Bow design unique + striking. Also came with a JHS external Paper Size Tag (see below) which is also an item that I have been looking for a long time. The shop that sold all this was located in Užhorod, Czechoslovakia which was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire up to 1919 and today Ukraine. This all came from a Czech source.

52778123128_485132bb2d_h.jpg


52777169607_b8fb13c9c9_h.jpg


52777114342_22d964e8d5_h.jpg


52778069190_61fe5865f1_h.jpg


52777924794_c364c676d7_h.jpg


52778081985_46a1ae1074_h.jpg


52777917469_faa00c755d_h.jpg


52778142428_571b822f58_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne External Pape Size Tag. It was folded at the line and tab placed under the bottom of the Band / Ribbon.

52777790486_31fa2bdd8f_h.jpg


There is only a tiny portion of the Paper Label left.

52777673646_a410c43eaf_h.jpg


Vented Spacers were behind the rear of the Sweatband. Their installation most likely caused the missing Paper Label. Highly possible they were supplied to the shop by JHS.

52777677281_0a81d9e538_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne Cardboard Box

52778097080_f44ecd5753_h.jpg


52777684116_1590eab5cf_h.jpg


52778107155_25d1ab46cc_h.jpg


J. Hückel´s Söhne "Plume" surrounded by original tissue paper.

52777159577_8d0e582a17_h.jpg


Here are similar J. Hückel´s Söhne Carboard Boxes but from the early 1900s.

52778288305_4f6787f8ef_b.jpg
Fantastic!!!!!
 

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