The Bowler or Derby Hat

[Mean Eyed Matt]

Thanks, Steve! Also for the dating and the encouragement regarding the dents.
I'm quite relaxed, too: Some steaming and brushing is good for the felt anyway.
And if it is smoothed a bit in addition - fine!

 

[Steve1857]

You're welcome Matt, and I agree entirely.

Thanks, Steve! Also for the dating and the encouragement regarding the dents.
I'm quite relaxed, too: Some steaming and brushing is good for the felt anyway.
And if it is smoothed a bit in addition - fine!

 

[steur]

What? You mean it doesn't come with one? ;-)

It was supposed to be a surprise. The stamps wouldn't stick to the fur though, so I gave it your address. Horses are smart, right?

 

[Rmccamey]

Man, my HAS is really kicking in with some great derby's showing up recently! I need another one!

 

[Tukwila]

Not from the emperor but new for me:
Hückel "Elastic" Melone/Derby - as we have seen from Steve and others here often. Any Dating? 30s?
Condition of this one is ok, unfortunately already before and then a little more dented by the transport.
But the flexible stiff felt - this is completely new to me - will be able to compensate the marks.
The hat has not yet been treated properly with steam and brush: please forgive me.

The sweat is also quite well intact and above all still supple.

The real reason for my purchase is the fantastic green liner,
which is glued and not sewn in - usual for stiff felts?

The label...

And here is an interesting detail behind the leather at the front:
A wavy piece of felt (black) with plain felt (white) over it - sewn in.
Reminds me of a mixture of cork strips and the intermediate piece at the Borsalinos.
Is this typical for the "Elastic"?

I see only one thing wrong with this one... it's the wrong size! 60cm

 

[Mean Eyed Matt]

If I ever find one like this in 60, I'll tell you!
But of course it is a bit difficult with the shipping costs
and customs duties - in both directions...

 

[Steve1857]

Randy, it's not a need, it's a duty

Man, my HAS is really kicking in with some great derby's showing up recently! I need another one!

 

[Steve1857]

Matt's (@Mean Eyed Matt) Elastic Hückel drew me to dig out my Flexible Hückel.
As can be seen from the label, they're probably more or less the same era, 1920s/1930s. The triangular art deco logo on the sweat certainly puts it in that time frame.
The liner on mine isn't as colourful as Matt's, but typical of that age.
I wonder what the difference was between an Elastic and a Flexible Hückel?

 

[Rmccamey]

Yes, we do have a certain obligation to keep the hat world in balance! Keep me in mind if you find another nice sample in my size. Your Huckel looks very smart, Steve.

Randy, it's not a need, it's a duty

Matt's (@Mean Eyed Matt) Elastic Hückel drew me to dig out my Flexible Hückel.
As can be seen from the label, they're probably more or less the same era, 1920s/1930s. The triangular art deco logo on the sweat certainly puts it in that time frame.
The liner on mine isn't as colourful as Matt's, but typical of that age.
I wonder what the difference was between an Elastic and a Flexible Hückel?

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[Steve1857]

Thanks, Randy. Sadly, it's not my size either. Far too small. Probably too small for anyone on the FL.
However, it's a nice piece in my collection.

Yes, we do have a certain obligation to keep the hat world in balance! Keep me in mind if you find another nice sample in my size. Your Huckel looks very smart, Steve.

 

[steur]

Fellow lounger Randy @Rmccamey found this Mallory bowler, but it didn't fit him. He was very kind and generous to send it to me. Even though in theory this would be a size too large for me, it actually fits me like a custom. Wonderful bowler hat.
Mallory cravanette bowler in a size 7 1/8 (57), unlined, with the brim at 5cm and the crown at approx. 12cm. It weighs 131 grams. Thanks Randy!

 

[steur]

Matt's (@Mean Eyed Matt) Elastic Hückel drew me to dig out my Flexible Hückel.
As can be seen from the label, they're probably more or less the same era, 1920s/1930s. The triangular art deco logo on the sweat certainly puts it in that time frame.
The liner on mine isn't as colourful as Matt's, but typical of that age.
I wonder what the difference was between an Elastic and a Flexible Hückel?

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I seem to have missed this one. That's a really nice find, Steve. If I'm seeing this correctly it's a size 4 1/4, which should be about a size 55. Close but not close enough.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

The Christmas season is one of the times of the yr I like to wear a derby, for a Victorian Christmas feel. This is my Keith Bros. I couldn't find my Victorian print shirt to wear but I'll keep looking before the season is over.

I stopped by to see old Mark Twain.

 

[Steve1857]

That is a very nice Mallory Bowler, Stefan. Sometimes sizes can be out a few points. It's always nice though when the wrong size fits anyway Congrats

Fellow lounger Randy @Rmccamey found this Mallory bowler, but it didn't fit him. He was very kind and generous to send it to me. Even though in theory this would be a size too large for me, it actually fits me like a custom. Wonderful bowler hat.
Mallory cravanette bowler in a size 7 1/8 (57), unlined, with the brim at 5cm and the crown at approx. 12cm. It weighs 131 grams. Thanks Randy!

 

[Steve1857]

Yes, 4 and 1/4, Stefan. Sadly, this one is not going to be a surprise fit.

I seem to have missed this one. That's a really nice find, Steve. If I'm seeing this correctly it's a size 4 1/4, which should be about a size 55. Close but not close enough.

 

[Steve1857]

Nice looking Derby, Jack. Can we see the liner?

I must say too, you wear it better than Mr. Twain

The Christmas season is one of the times of the yr I like to wear a derby, for a Victorian Christmas feel. This is my Keith Bros. I couldn't find my Victorian print shirt to wear but I'll keep looking before the season is over.

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[steur]

The Christmas season is one of the times of the yr I like to wear a derby, for a Victorian Christmas feel. This is my Keith Bros. I couldn't find my Victorian print shirt to wear but I'll keep looking before the season is over.

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That's a different look for you, Jack. You rock that bowler though.

 

[steur]

That is a very nice Mallory Bowler, Stefan. Sometimes sizes can be out a few points. It's always nice though when the wrong size fits anyway Congrats

Sometimes you need a little luck, but even hats that are too small can be worth saving.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Nice looking Derby, Jack. Can we see the liner?

I must say too, you wear it better than Mr. Twain

That's a different look for you, Jack. You rock that bowler though.

Thanks guys! I love a Victorian look.

This was just before St. Patrick's Day & everything went into lockdown. O'Malley's Irish Pub opened in 1842.

 

[Rmccamey]

Love the look of the bowler for the holidays! Cheers.

The Christmas season is one of the times of the yr I like to wear a derby, for a Victorian Christmas feel. This is my Keith Bros. I couldn't find my Victorian print shirt to wear but I'll keep looking before the season is over.

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