The Bowler or Derby Hat

[jamespowers]

Thanks for that Dhermann. Since posting the above question I stumbled upon an old WWII newsreport which described Winston Churchill wearing his 'square bowler' - so, it was obviously a common term, and style, back then. Now I just need a photo!

Churchill's square bowler is what they refer to as a Cambridge Bowler. You'll probably find a lot more with that name.

 

[jamespowers]

A less stylized picture of the Cambridge Bowler on Churchill:

 

[Ephraim Tutt]

A less stylized picture of the Cambridge Bowler on Churchill:

Aaahhhh.....Mr Powers. Suddenly it all makes sense. It's the high, square-top crown they're referring to!

Many thanks for that. Now, where can I buy one??

 

[jamespowers]

Aaahhhh.....Mr Powers. Suddenly it all makes sense. It's the high, square-top crown they're referring to!

Many thanks for that. Now, where can I buy one??

Jack McKicking in Canda custom makes them. Aside from that, I have no idea where. [huh]
John McMicking
L&H HATS
179 Melville Street
Dundas, Ontario
L9H 2A9
Phone: (905) 627-7492
mcmicking@canada.com

I am not sure if the email still works.

 

[dhermann1]

Great hat man, WSC.

 

[OddSteve]

I think I already posted this picture somewehere on the lounge (by the way, is there a quick way to browse through your own posts?)

 

[Torpedo]

I think I already posted this picture somewehere on the lounge (by the way, is there a quick way to browse through your own posts?)

Yes, click on your name above your avatar, and you will see one option that reads something like "Find more posts by...". That's it!

Great pic BTW!

 

[OddSteve]

Thanks, Torpedo!

 

[billyspew]

Aaahhhh.....Mr Powers. Suddenly it all makes sense. It's the high, square-top crown they're referring to!

Many thanks for that. Now, where can I buy one??

Lock & Co. were certainly still making these until a very short while ago. They may still do so.

 

[jamespowers]

I think I already posted this picture somewehere on the lounge (by the way, is there a quick way to browse through your own posts?)

Wow! That brim is really narrow.

 

[Ephraim Tutt]

Righto you chaps who love Derbys - there's a lovely young lady who is looking for advice on a rather vintage-looking bowler in her possession. Could one of you perhaps take a look at this thread and offer any assistance?

http://thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=44164

 

[LocktownDog]

Where do you suppose I could find one similar to this? Preferably in more of an earth tone rather than black.

I should also add that I'm only 10 minutes from Virginia City and have yet to find the time lately to dally in their hat shops recently ... without children tagging along. I would hope I can find one there among the rest of the western wear.

 

[jwalls]

Derby

http://www.xoopit.com/s/20um7cjq58ene2s972wc For the Irish in every drinker.

 

[Nick D]

I found another Dunn & Co bowler, which will hopefully fit a little better. Keeping my fingers crossed, it should be here tomorrow.

 

[LocktownDog]

Looks like Bat Masterson had the same taste in hats as myself. Maybe I can cross reference his name in my hat searches? Somebody's got to have one.

 

[Brad Bowers]

Looks like Bat Masterson had the same taste in hats as myself. Maybe I can cross reference his name in my hat searches? Somebody's got to have one.

Finding a proper 20th Century-styled Derby is hard enough these days, but finding someone that can do a proper 19th Century one is even harder. However, Clearwater Hats makes a decent-looking one. Look at their "Bowler" [sic].

I take issue with their "taller styles lasting into the 1930s" bit. After the turn of the century, crown heights started dropping. By the time you get to the 1930s, a Derby crown was on average about 5 inches tall, quite a bit shorter than the 19th-Century crowns.

Brad

 

[LocktownDog]

Hey ... thanks Brad! Is that a company you've had experience with? Their prices seem lower than what I was expecting.

 

[Brad Bowers]

No, I haven't ordered anything from them. I knew a fellow once that ordered a couple of them, and he always seemed happy with them.

Brad

 

[hatflick1]

another hat in the ring

http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/

If you click on Civil War and scroll down to item C24, you will see a derby offered in a variety of materials to include: fur felt, nutria and wool.

 

[jamespowers]

Looks like Bat Masterson had the same taste in hats as myself. Maybe I can cross reference his name in my hat searches? Somebody's got to have one.

Stetson actually made a hat named after Masterson. I have one and it looks quite similar but the brim curl is not nearly as tight. They probably made them from the 60s-80s some time. The brim is 3 1/4".