The BORSALINO BROTHERHOOD

[Chepstow]

Ale, looks fantastic and is a unique special version for you!

 

[hatophile]

Ale, looks fantastic and is a unique special version for you!

++++1!

Alan that Misto is magnificent!

 

[cookie]

The hat arrived today,,,, stuffed into a cardboard box

I believe this will probably be a newer hat.

No paper tags under the liner...... size tag is paper with red lettering and outlined box. Size 5 1/2.

The pics I had seen were misleading as the liner is PURPLE or plum, the liner crown has additional covering over the logo . On top of the logo it has "Qualita Extra Extra Superore" on the black sweatband in the front is a crown with XXX.....

It must have been purchased in MILAN and the store name is in fancy script.....as best as I can make out " Seraf Casiraghi second line is MILANO, third line, Galleria VITTE manualo 92" so obviously the store name and address.

It is a lighter gray with black ribbon and sharks gill bow.... Fancy stitching around the outside of the brim....

Beautiful hat IMHO and the exact colors I was looking for in my size......

I have never seen the fancy stitching before but I am a newbie so that is probably why...

Great hat an I definitely think I lucked out on this one.......

Any info anyone can supply would be appreciated as this came from an estate and no info was available.....

That store was/is? the primo hat store in Milan from what I gather. Don't know if the Casiraghis are the same family that married into the Grimaldi royal family in Monaco.

 

[Ordinary Guy]

Thanks Cookie, nice bit of info to accompany my hat...

It is off to Optimo for a cleaning and blocking , can't wait for its return......

 

[Borsalino Fan]

Letterpress is enjoying a little surge in popularity in my industry and there are still plenty of them in operation for die cutting and foil stamping. These prints might also involve engraving or gravure... will be interesting to hear what Steve's friend says about them.

The problem with printing on fabric is the weave. The finer the weave of the fabric, the better it is suited to accepting the imprint from the plate without breaks and voids. Issues of bleeding and ink retention would be a factor too, which I guess would be addressed by the choice of ink and sizing applied to the fabric.

With silkscreen printing, you have the added loss of resolution posed by the silk (or nylon or polyester) fabric that holds the stencil. These open weave fabrics can be very fine, but there is still a loss where fine detail in the stencil is obstructed by the silk threads. This, and the tendency of the ink to dry in the silkscreen, give silkscreen printing more limited resolution than other methods, even in the hands of a very skilled craftsman.

Hello;

I noticed your post. Are you referring to the machine that stores used to stamp the initials in gold letters of the owner of the hat on the leather sweatband? I'm searcging for someone to do thaty...even the stores here in Italy where I live don't know what I'm talking about. Borsalino stores inn the USA used to do this toutinely when you bought a hat. I'm considering trying to buy a machine just so I can do it myself. I don't know what they are called or how to find one. Can you help?

Thank you!

David

 

[fluteplayer07]

Killer Misto, Alan! You smaller sizes have got it made

Wonderful, Ale, love it.

 

[alanfgag]

Hello;

I noticed your post. Are you referring to the machine that stores used to stamp the initials in gold letters of the owner of the hat on the leather sweatband? I'm searcging for someone to do thaty...even the stores here in Italy where I live don't know what I'm talking about. Borsalino stores inn the USA used to do this toutinely when you bought a hat. I'm considering trying to buy a machine just so I can do it myself. I don't know what they are called or how to find one. Can you help?

Thank you!

David

If you Google >hot stamping< you will find this info. There are some small shop solutions mixed in with larger machines, though probably still an expensive option for home use.

 

[alanfgag]

Killer Misto, Alan! You smaller sizes have got it made

Thanks Alex... yes we are a lucky lot. We get to buy the small size pillows too.

 

[alanfgag]

Borsalino Mascotte - Alpine style

Not a Bersaline Fendora as advertised, but a soft velour Borsalino Mascotte in an Alpine style, circa 1960. Felt is marked as M. Maroso, a mixed gray - soft but not as refined as German/Austrian velour. This hat appears to be a twin to and from the same Roman store as this Mascotte that belonged to JTL's grandfather, but has unreeded sweatband with front corrugated spacer. Maroso? - perhaps a nod to the northern Italian city Marostica, nestled in the foothills of the Dolomites and famous for its wizard chess tournaments...

The hat had been worn with a simple round "porkpie" shape. Not bad from the side, but I didn't like it from the front, so steamed out the marks and reformed to raise the crown a little.

 

[Chepstow]

Alan, I like the new shape, looks better as before, also a nice felt and yeah it's an alpine Hat. Great find Alan.

 

[mikespens]

Never been a big fan of the Alpine style but you've changed my mind Alan. Style'n.

 

[mayserwegener]

Alan, Great Borsalino Mascotte Alpine Velour! It looks fantastic on you too! IMO Robert (RLK) is also a great wearer of the Alpine style.

 

[carouselvic]

Tasso...heather gray(M.Maroso) (Gorasgu)

I don't understand why over-welts and felted edge hats use the same name. This hat has a tell on its age.

 

[alanfgag]

Thank you for the kind notes, Manfred, Mike and Steve.

Very handsome Gorasgu, Victor. I there a logo label in this one? My Alpine has no style name imprinted - later label with no logo and four sided perf... 2" brim width.

 

[carouselvic]

Remnant of an OPS tag remain.

 

[Chepstow]

Echter Borsalino arrived today! The good one has a date stamp from 1938. I love the German thoroughness.
That is what arrived! Sweatband stitching damaged, ribbon and bow damaged! I knew that before I have commanded.

After sewing the sweatband, I gave him a new vintage ribbon and a new flanging.
That is the finished hat! Echter Borsalino Color Mirtillo a dark blue / black

 

[carouselvic]

nice

 

[Joshbru3]

GORGEOUS work, Manfred!! The flange shape is perfect for that hat and the frayed ribbon is done wonderfully. Is the flange that you used labeled 901?

:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap

 

[rlk]

Beautiful Blueberry!

 

[mayserwegener]

Manfred, Fantastic! That is great that it has a date stamp and it turned out to be from the 1930s. It has Echter Borsalino liner logo like my 1930s Carl Kellner Echter Borsalino.