Terms Which Have Disappeared

[HudsonHawk]

Buffets around here are strictly a proletarian thing -- your choice is all-you-can-eat Chinese, all-you-can-eat fried seafood, or all-you-can-eat KFC. I can't even begin to imagine what an upscale "all you can eat" place would be like. All-you-can-eat avocado toast?

Well, you might start with a salad:

Maybe some fruit:

A little seafood is a must:

Polish it off with a little something sweet:

 

[BlueTrain]

You mean like in Hof Braus Haus? I've got a drawing of it on my bulletin board here at work, next to a photo of Huntz Hall and another of his son Rev. Gary Hall, plus one of Max Raabe.

I need a bigger bulletin board.

 

[KILO NOVEMBER]

A customer asked me yesterday if I had lived in the Washington (D.C.) area all my life. I replied, "No, only for the past 46 years or so." We laughed. Washington old timers will remember Scholl's Colonial Cafeteria:

It was a family owned and operated business with several locations in downtown DC and operated between 1928 and 2001. Wikipedia has this article.

 

[Trenchfriend]

"Bronx"-cocktail? Gin, Vermouth and orange-juice?

Liquid headache, or what??

 

[Fading Fast]

Not a term, but an appetizer that has all but disappeared is the fruit cup or fruit cocktail. Seeing it on the menu in the above post reminded me that it used to be on some menus when I was growing up and my grandmother used to make one at home as an appetizer quite often.

Then, last night, I watched the 1946 movie "Nobody Lives Forever" and the lead characters where eating one in some fancy restaurant. And I know I've seen them on menus from train dining cars in the Golden Era (not that I'm geeky enough to read old train menus because I'm a fan of train travel or something).

When you think about it, it's a nice way to start a meal as you eat something relatively healthy and light versus many of today's gargantuan and heavy appetizers that fill me up before the entree ever comes (which is why I rarely order one). I wonder why they died off.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Thruout his tenure in the White House, FDR's standard lunch was canned fruit cocktail and cottage cheese. Much to the chagrin of other dignitaries invited to lunch with the President.

 

[MisterCairo]

I have not seen a tin of fruit cocktail in over ten years. I will check to see if they are still available locally. I suspect so.

 

[Trenchfriend]

Hm, the (canned) fruit-cocktail and "HÜTTENKÄSE" really tolerate each other in the belly?

I would be mistrustful on this combination.

 

[Fading Fast]

Thruout his tenure in the White House, FDR's standard lunch was canned fruit cocktail and cottage cheese. Much to the chagrin of other dignitaries invited to lunch with the President.

Funny, my grandmother ate cottage cheese too. I was fine with the fruit cocktail thing, but took a bye on the cottage cheese.

So, did everyone invited to lunch with him have to eat what the President was eating - fruit cocktail and cottage cheese?

 

[BlueTrain]

When I was in the army, C-rations were still being used up. A C-ration is a small packaged meal with most of the components being in cans. They came in a thick cardboard case holding, oh, maybe a dozen rations. Some soldiers would go through a case if they had a chance and take what they liked and the fruit cocktail was a favorite. It's still available at the supermarket. In fact, you can get just about anything at the supermarket these days.

There is a line in the Mel Brooks movie "High Anxiety" 1977, set at a rest home, when the staff is sitting down for dinner and Nurse Diesel (Cloris Leachman) states, "Those who are tardy do not get fruit cup!"

Let that be a lesson!

 

[Trenchfriend]

You're inspiring me, here!!

My supermarket around the corner, cottage-cheese, (lowfat)quark, milk for mixing, canned 5x fruit-cocktail, vanilla-sugar...

I don't want to go into detail, too much.

 

[2jakes]

Funny, my grandmother ate cottage cheese too. I was fine with the fruit cocktail thing, but took a bye on the cottage cheese.

So, did everyone invited to lunch with him have to eat what the President was eating - fruit cocktail and cottage cheese?

The Food Timeline--Presidents food favorites

Hotdogs!

"President Roosevelt entertained Crown Princess Louise of Sweden and her party atop Dutchess Hill, the site of his future cottage home, this afternoon, and the breezes that whistled thorugh the encircling oaks and pines carried before them the inviting smell of typical American fare--hot dogs and coffee...The hot dogs were served at the insistence of Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt, wife of the president, Mrs. James Roosevelt, the President's 83-year-old-mother, who never eats the American road-side dish, had wanted to serve pork sausages on finger rolls, but these were ruled out by her daughter-in-law, the hostess of the day. The hot dogs, dripping with mustard, were tucked into the familiar rolls. They were washed down by beer. Although she held aloof from the hot dogs, the President's mother clung to a glass of beer. For her, ham and chicken sandwiches were added to the picnic menu."
New York Times, July 3, 1938 (p. 1)
"Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt, wife of the President, wants to give a picnic for them [the King and Queen of England], with hot dogs if the weather is pleasantly cool, but thermometer should register 100 degrees in the shade, in which case more appropriate refreshments will be provided. There probably will be a picnic, over which at present, however, a 'friendly family argument' is in progress, Mrs. Roosevelt said today."
---"Roosevelts Plan Hot Dogs for King," New York Times, May 18, 1939 (p. 21)

 

[Fading Fast]

The Food Timeline--Presidents food favorites

Hotdogs!

"President Roosevelt entertained Crown Princess Louise of Sweden and her party atop Dutchess Hill, the site of his future cottage home, this afternoon, and the breezes that whistled thorugh the encircling oaks and pines carried before them the inviting smell of typical American fare--hot dogs and coffee...The hot dogs were served at the insistence of Mrs. Eleanor Roosevelt, wife of the president, Mrs. James Roosevelt, the President's 83-year-old-mother, who never eats the American road-side dish, had wanted to serve pork sausages on finger rolls, but these were ruled out by her daughter-in-law, the hostess of the day. The hot dogs, dripping with mustard, were tucked into the familiar rolls. They were washed down by beer. Although she held aloof from the hot dogs, the President's mother clung to a glass of beer. For her, ham and chicken sandwiches were added to the picnic menu."
New York Times, July 3, 1938 (p. 1)
"Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt, wife of the President, wants to give a picnic for them [the King and Queen of England], with hot dogs if the weather is pleasantly cool, but thermometer should register 100 degrees in the shade, in which case more appropriate refreshments will be provided. There probably will be a picnic, over which at present, however, a 'friendly family argument' is in progress, Mrs. Roosevelt said today."
---"Roosevelts Plan Hot Dogs for King," New York Times, May 18, 1939 (p. 21)

I believe I saw a somewhat stylized version of that in the movie "Hyde Park on the Hudson."

 

[2jakes]

I believe I saw a somewhat stylized version of that in the movie "Hyde Park on the Hudson."

In the opening credits I had images of “Saturday Night Live” cropping up.
I was wrong. Bill Murray did a fine job.

 

[LizzieMaine]

Imagine the converse of that, with FDR and Eleanor going to Britain and being served eel pie and mash.

 

[Zombie_61]

Hm, the (canned) fruit-cocktail and "HÜTTENKÄSE" really tolerate each other in the belly?

I would be mistrustful on this combination.

When mixed in the proper portions, the fruit helps to make the cottage cheese more tolerable as far as flavor is concerned. Gastrointestinally, I can't really say because it's been quite a while since I've eaten such a mixture, but I don't recall having any problems.

You're inspiring me, here!!

My supermarket around the corner, cottage-cheese, (lowfat)quark, milk for mixing, canned 5x fruit-cocktail, vanilla-sugar...

I don't want to go into detail, too much.

Here in the U.S. the fruit and cottage cheese are usually mixed together without any other ingredients--no milk, no sugar; the fruit itself is sweet enough and has probably had sugar added as it was canned.

 

[LizzieMaine]

The thing to do when we were kids was to ignore the fruit pieces and drink the heavy syrup it came packed in. That would provide enough of a sugar buzz to keep us wild and uncontrollable for hours.

 

[2jakes]

The thing to do when we were kids was to ignore the fruit pieces and drink the heavy syrup it came packed in. That would provide enough of a sugar buzz to keep us wild and uncontrollable for hours.

Best sugar buzz!
Courtesy of our local candy shop.

Made by heating and liquefying sugar and spinning it out through minute holes, where it re-solidifies in minutely thin strands of "sugar glass," the final cotton candy contains mostly air, with a typical serving weighing approximately 1 ounce or 30 grams.

 

[MisterCairo]

Imagine the converse of that, with FDR and Eleanor going to Britain and being served eel pie and mash.

 

[Fading Fast]

In the opening credits I had images of “Saturday Night Live” cropping up.
I was wrong. Bill Murray did a fine job.

My opinion of him as an actor has ramped up dramatically as, IMHO, he has shown real acting chops in movies like "Lost in Translation," "Hyde Park on Hudson" and "St. Vincent."