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Summer Hat Suggestions?

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They had 1 hat with no liner because the liner would hold heat in plus you couldn't water your horse using the crown like a bucket from the famous Last Drop Stetson logo. They also used their hat as a pot holder & all kinds of utilities that we would never do. They were a rugged bunch but were not raised with air conditioning & such & could tolerate a lot more than our candy-a$$es can!
 

kaosharper1

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HungaryTom said:
But why do people wear felt at all during summer - animal fur is soo hot even if it is lightweight. Straw is much more airy and ventillated. [huh]
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True for lightly woven straw. Oddly the expensive panamas are so tightly woven that they give no more ventilation than felt. And, as I said, for me felt only works where you don't have humidity which may explain why cowboys can wear their hats in the desert. If there's humidity straw is definitely better.

Aside from rain, there are times I just don't want to look like Sam Snead, if you can remember who he was.
 

carldelo

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John in Covina said:
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Except maybe in NYC.

:mad: Hey John, guess where there are more guns, NYC or California? NYC is about as safe as a big city gets in this country, and safer than most of the hinterlands, too, for that matter. OK, minor hissy fit concluded.... :)

To the OP, I suggest the Stetson Retro, a nicely shaped C-crown fedora in straw. Fairly inexpensive, as long as your head isn't too big. Aaron's has them, as well as Delmonico's and some others:

http://www.getahaton.com/Stetson_Retro_Panama_Hat_p/stetson-ts35298124.rtro.htm

PS - those Milan straws from Miller are really nice looking. Milan is generally a tight weave, however - my old Stetson Milan straw is quite hot.
 
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carldelo said:
:mad: Hey John, guess where there are more guns, NYC or California? NYC is about as safe as a big city gets in this country, and safer than most of the hinterlands, too, for that matter. OK, minor hissy fit concluded.... :)
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NYC is ok if you like saxaphones.
 
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The murder rate in NYC is 6-7 per 100K and in LA it is 10 per 100K. If there are no guns in NYC as per the Sullivan Law, it seems you still have to worry about being stabbed or beaten with baseball bats. With all of the guns in LA you'd expect everyone to be dead.;)
 

carldelo

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John in Covina said:
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NYC is ok if you like saxaphones.

PS I deleted my post just before this one, I replied before noticing the wink, must drink less coffee, no hard feelings, time for my nap, etc., etc., etc.

OK, this is driving me nuts - all NYC bragging temporarily suspended - what song is that line from????

EDIT - never mind, found it (FEAR The Record), very funny, good song too....
 

johnnycanuck

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John in Covina said:
Back to summer hats: those folder crusher travelors like from Borsalino or Akubra are they lighter weight?

How much does vent holes make as a difference to the hat heat?

Quite a bit. I have an Akubra with vent holes and it makes a difference for me.

Wouldn't do me much good on a day like today. -24 F this morning driving in to work.:eek: cold, oh so cold. Hurry up summer.

Johnny
 

Garrett

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There have been a few really cheap straws on the bay lately. May be your best bet.
 

jec

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johnnycanuck said:
Quite a bit. I have an Akubra with vent holes and it makes a difference for me.

Wouldn't do me much good on a day like today. -24 F this morning driving in to work.:eek: cold, oh so cold. Hurry up summer.

Johnny


My experience with a vented felt Akubra Angler is that on a hot, humid day in mid summer - the hat is HOT, regardless of the vent holes. I have never really noticed a difference provided by the vents, in summer heat, or in the cold. Still, I wear felt all year 'round. I need a hat that can take a shower. So I save my true Panamas for special occasions - garden parties, etc.

I do wonder about that seeming paradox: how can Panama hats be so reliable and popular down in the tropics if they can't survive a rain storm? Or do we just expect more of them? And expect our Panamas to keep their shape perfectly all the time?
 

jazzncocktails

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Lefty said:
I may sell my panama and get another Optimo milan.
Lefty, that is a gorgeous lid. The ribbon is a little bright for my money, but even saying that, I could imagine it would look great on. I'm certainly going to check it out...I notice that your photo looks a bit different than those on the Optimo website. Is that who you purchased it from? Your hat looks like it has a telescope as opposed to a center dent.
 

Lefty

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I got it from Optimo. Their photos make the hat look a bit dull but, as you can see, it glows in the sun. The crown is a teardrop (C-crown), but you can order your hat with whatever crease and ribbon you like. I was on a road trip with every intention of stopping at Optimo, so I got to look in the three huge boxes of ribbon spools they had in the shop, pull out the one I wanted, and describe the style of bow to be formed. The cost is pretty high, but it really is a fantastic hat. It's pretty much taken me off panamas and put me squarely in the milan camp.
 

RBH

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Lefty said:
I got it from Optimo. Their photos make the hat look a bit dull but, as you can see, it glows in the sun. The crown is a teardrop (C-crown), but you can order your hat with whatever crease and ribbon you like. I was on a road trip with every intention of stopping at Optimo, so I got to look in the three huge boxes of ribbon spools they had in the shop, pull out the one I wanted, and describe the style of bow to be formed. The cost is pretty high, but it really is a fantastic hat. It's pretty much taken me off panamas and put me squarely in the milan camp.
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I like it!
Like you I have become a huge fan of the milan, I just like them.
 

Lefty

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Thanks. After seeing what you did to your Miller milan, and the price being so right, I've been thinking about picking up on of those myself.
 

RBH

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Lefty said:
Thanks. After seeing what you did to your Miller milan, and the price being so right, I've been thinking about picking up on of those myself.
I have another [with a 2 5\8s brim] that should be here this week. I really like the looks and they really hold up well.

Here is my pearl [light gray] that I received from Millers. [taken last Sunday]

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HungaryTom

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Straw hat /linen clothing

1. Candya§§ version...
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Rustical edition....that guy is definitely no candya§§

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Same material: linen clothing and straw hat. The first solution is more style oriented and refined with more money to be invested. Version 2 is more utilitarian with less money needed causing less concerns whether the straw hat will get deformed or not if it gets caught by the rain. Such ultra rustic wheat straw hats cost namely approx 12 USD. See link: http://www.neptanckellek.hu/kalap.html
 

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