Stroller - Morning Dress only?

[filfoster]

Earlier ones often had buttons faced in black 'basketweave' braided silk.

A thread on another forum mentions the fabric covered buttons but photos of Churchill seem to show 'ordinary' or bone buttons.

 

[avedwards]

I'd imagine that the cloth covered buttons are a leftover of the Edwardian times (when the stroller was invented) when most suits, tailcoats and frock coats would have had them.

 

[Chrome]

Plus the covered ones are great detail, I have few black jackets and some have cloth covered and some don't. I use same jackets as suit jackets as a stroller jacket .. I cheat

Cloth looking like this:

 

[Oldsarge]

Now that we all understand what they are, how many of you are planning on wearing one on the traditional day, Easter morning? I'm in.

 

[filfoster]

Plus the covered ones are great detail, I have few black jackets and some have cloth covered and some don't. I use same jackets as suit jackets as a stroller jacket .. I cheat

From what I read here and in another forum, no cheating at all as the stroller jacket is described as a black lounge suit jacket. The only puzzlement or contradiction is the feeling of some that the jacket should have only jetted pockets which are more formal, less 'lounge suit'. I think flapped pockets could be tucked and give it more versatility.

And 'aye' to Oldsarge's suggestion.

 

[Cobden]

A black lounge suit is the British term for a stroller - in the UK, where wearing an all black suit wasn't the done thing, a black lounge suit thus implied that striped trousers were worn. A black lounge suit jacket is just British speak for a stroller jacket

 

[Nick D]

Now that we all understand what they are, how many of you are planning on wearing one on the traditional day, Easter morning? I'm in.

Stroller? I'll be in morning dress. I just hope I can finish it off by finding a topper in time.

 

[filfoster]

Stroller? I'll be in morning dress. I just hope I can finish it off by finding a topper in time.

email Ton from his site: http://www.silktophats.eu/ I got a wonderful silk plush topper from him a while back. He has a great inventory and the prices are not as crazy as they seem to be at his competitors on your side of the Channel.

Most of his inventory is black but he does have some gray ones in almost every size, from this morning's peruse.

 

[MikeDeltaFoxtrot]

My first FL post.

I have been intrigued by the stroller concept, and I am thinking of trying to assemble a suitable ensemble in time for Easter this year.

I was married in 2000 in a rented morning coat, but I don't own any of the requisite components for a stroller. Most of my new suits these days are MTM, but I'd rather do this OTR, given that it will be infrequently worn.

I am thinking of ordering hounds tooth trousers from Oliver Brown and maybe a waistcoat as well. I have two questions for the group here.

1) There seem to be both linen and woolen vests available from most vendors who sell morning wear. What are the relative merits and suitability of each?

2) What is a good source for a suitable jacket? I wear a 46 extra long, so vintage is unlikely. There are some rental quality options available (e.g. Lord West and After Six) but that seems to be it in the OTR offerings. I suppose I could just order a black suit jacket from a vendor who sells separates like BB or JAB, but I would prefer peak lapels, which are unlikely from such a source.

What say ye?

 

[Oldsarge]

I suppose that all depends on how much effort you want to go through. Despite the sartorial prejudice against them, every man needs a black suit. People die and you need to go to funerals. People get married and don't want a morning dress wedding so you are left with the somber, 'marrying and burying' suit. You may as well get one and use the coat from it as your stroller jacket. If you get it MTM you can specify the desired peaked lapels. Heck, you could even get a DB suit and it would come that way OTR. Then you wouldn't need the vest, thought there would be nothing wrong with wearing one anyway.

I'd go with wool unless Easter morning in your part of the world is normally hot and muggy. Linen does wrinkle so.

And I'd put BB or Nordstrom's over JAB, personally.

 

[Yeps]

Dinner suit / stroller
I just happened to find a late 50's silk lined coat with peaked collars and I finished what I had started.. the stroller project! Oh well.. I think I need a bowler

Any discussion of the stroller should include a picture of Sproily.

 

[avedwards]

Any discussion of the stroller should include a picture of Sproily.

He has a slightly older jacket now with wider peaked lapels. If you must post a photo of him make it a more up to date one . It is one of the best combined strollers I've seen though.

 

[Yeps]

That is probably the one I was looking for. Lemme go find it.


Edit: Tada!

Finally got hold of some photos... My updated stroller:

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

He has a slightly older jacket now with wider peaked lapels. If you must post a photo of him make it a more up to date one . It is one of the best combined strollers I've seen though.

...and guess who has the jacket in the fist picture now^^ I still need striped trousers though.

 

[MikeDeltaFoxtrot]

...and guess who has the jacket in the fist picture now^^ I still need striped trousers though.

Is the jacket vented?

 

[avedwards]

...and guess who has the jacket in the fist picture now^^ I still need striped trousers though.

Both jackets are beautiful, but even though his current one is older I have to say I prefer the one you have a little bit. I prefer the regular button stance to the "jazz age" button stance, and the lapel width on the 50s one is to my taste (just over halfway towards the shoulder).

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

Is the jacket vented?

No. They both don't have vents.


And yes, they are both nice. I am glad to have the one I got. I DO like the jazz age lapels though. Sharp.

 

[avedwards]

No. They both don't have vents.

As is only right for a stroller jacket in my opinion. Whilst vents may be acceptable on formalwear ventless looks more formal and a bit neater.

 

[Flat Foot Floey]

From1. Whife (ed.): The Modern Tailor Outfitter and Clothier. London, 1949

 

[Baron Kurtz]

Interesting to read the "dress for business part". The character of Captain Peacock was intended to be hopelessly, stuffily, out of date, of course.