Star Trek

[Edward]

The vinyard was the family business as much as anything - didn't he effectively inherit that when his nephew and brother were killed? I can well see somebody like Picard quitting the Federation if it became something other than what he had long believed it to be. Like a crusading journalist quitting the paper because the new owners won't let him expose corruption at a major corporate advertiser.

 

[MichaelRhB]

Yes, it became his upon his brother's death.

I don't think Picard is a quitter. He'd stay if only because he thinks he could make a change. One way or another.

 

[MissNathalieVintage]

Normally I try to give new shows a chance by watching at least the first half of the first season. That usually gives me a fairly decent sample size to determine what the show will be like and whether or not I think I'll like it. But with STD I didn't have that opportunity. CBS aired only one episode, and I saw nothing in that episode that would make me want to pay to see more. So I'm out...until they drop the monthly subscription cost to about a buck a month, that is; then I'll consider it.

You can still watch STD for free check your local libraries website to see if they have copies of the show on DVD or through their digital online resources. Its available to view on DVD at the Chicago Public library.

I have yet to watch STD myself even though I was able to watch Picard for free on the CBS app, I just canceled my subscription before the expiration date. On instagram back in April Patrick Stewart gave out a code to anyone who looked up his instagram page and the code was also available on Star Trek's instagram page. And you can check the CBS All Access to see if they are also offering free viewing for a month.

I can not wait for season two of Picard. Oh, and did you know Picard's dog was actually a tribute to his real life rescue dog who died shortly after he was adopted. Do to the years of abuse the dog suffered before joining the Steward house hold. Patrick and his wife wanted the dog to have a happy life before he passed away.

 

[LizzieMaine]

As a fan of pit bulls, I was hoping to see more of that dog. Here's hoping in Season Two he is somehow revived and recast as a prime character, determined to lick evil into submission.

 

[MissNathalieVintage]

The vinyard was the family business as much as anything - didn't he effectively inherit that when his nephew and brother were killed? I can well see somebody like Picard quitting the Federation if it became something other than what he had long believed it to be. Like a crusading journalist quitting the paper because the new owners won't let him expose corruption at a major corporate advertiser.

Yes! This is what I like about Picard he always tries to do what he thinks is right and more often then not he does do the right thing even if it means going against the Federation.

And I too do not think Picard will ever be a quitter. Now that he's the rebel outlaw cant wait to see what he'll get up to next.

And I froze when Picard died, thankfully they had the common sense to bring him back to life as an android with no special abilities and they were also smart enough to give him an expiration date too, LOL.

 

[Trenchfriend]

I don't know, but Brent Spiner looks more and more like (aged) Data, who's playing Brent Spiner...

 

[Trenchfriend]

Watching First Contact right now, first time this year. Original tone.

Yeah, it's still legend. BUT let's face the truth. The older you get, the less it rocks you. Too much cinema style for the 16yo boys. Too much Hollywood, too less TNG.

But let's see how my feeling will be after the original tone again.

The tone and picture of the european DVD ist still brillant!! On my CRT-TV!

PS:
I couldn't have watch it in cinema, back then, because I wasn't already 12.

 

[Trenchfriend]

The points:

-Earth defense got no Quantum torpedoes
-why using phaser against the Borg?? If all would have klingon Bathlets like Worf! They should be easy to replicate??
-Data is bullet-proof against Lily's machine gun?
-how can Borg build this infrastructure so easily??
-how can the Borg transfer ship command so easily to engineering? Starfleet, where are your computer safety barrier systems?

 

[LizzieMaine]

I've only seen FC twice -- once the first weekend it was released in '96 and again in 2006 as the projectionist, with Cmdr. Frakes himself in person as our featured guest. He made a crack in the Q&A about "Picard the tea-sipping imperialist" that is still echoing in our rafters.

Quantum torpedoes had only just been introduced (in DS9, anyway)when FC came out. Maybe they were afraid enough of them not to have wanted them to be used around Earth, just in case.

The thing that bugged me about FC in 1996 and still bothers me about it now is that nearly a hundred years after the 1970s, Cochrane's choice of launch music is Steppenwolf or some such? Really? "Is that freedom rock, man? Well turrrrrrrrrrn it up!" That'd be like somebody in 1996 lifting off to "Ta-Ra-Ra-Boom-De-Ay."

 

[Bushman]

That'd be like somebody in 1996 lifting off to "Ta-Ra-Ra-Boom-De-Ay."

 

[scottyrocks]

We just watched S3, E1&2 of Star Trek: Discovery.

No spoilers, but it picks up right where it left off. The writing and feel are right in line with the previous season, which is to say very good. New characters have been introduced, and the main plot line for the season has already become evident, and it's a good one. And they quickly avoided doing something that would have ruined it for me if they kept it up much longer, but I won't tell you what it is.

 

[Zombie_61]

...The thing that bugged me about FC in 1996 and still bothers me about it now is that nearly a hundred years after the 1970s, Cochrane's choice of launch music is Steppenwolf or some such? Really? "Is that freedom rock, man? Well turrrrrrrrrrn it up!" That'd be like somebody in 1996 lifting off to "Ta-Ra-Ra-Boom-De-Ay."

Ah, but don't forget Cochrane was listening and dancing to Roy Orbison's "Ooby Dooby" in the bar with Troi and Commander Riker; clearly Cochrane liked oldies, since that song is considered to be Orbison's first hit back in *1961. By the time Enterprise and the crew land in "the past" in 2063, Ooby Dooby would be 102 years old.


*Steppenwolf's "Magic Carpet Ride" became a hit seven years later in 1968.

 

[Trenchfriend]

I can again say, First Contact is def. better in original tone than in german synchro.

First problem of the german synchro is, that some voices doesn't fit to the characters. Second problem is, that the synchro tries to get a little fun into, but that failed.

 

[Trenchfriend]

But can anyone identify Dr. Crusher's jacket??

 

[Trenchfriend]

Q, where's your memory??
Bring back to life the 18 crew member of Enterprise D, you got on your conscience by introducing the Borg, you ba***rd!!

 

[Edward]

The thing that bugged me about FC in 1996 and still bothers me about it now is that nearly a hundred years after the 1970s, Cochrane's choice of launch music is Steppenwolf or some such? Really? "Is that freedom rock, man? Well turrrrrrrrrrn it up!" That'd be like somebody in 1996 lifting off to "Ta-Ra-Ra-Boom-De-Ay."

Mn. I see this all too often in media, not only motion pictures. I'll never forget in 2005 seeing a TV ad (in Spain) for a mobile phone company. The joke, such as it was, was the old trope of the unexpected person having a particular song as their ringtone. Problem was, they used "Smoke on the Water".... and we were supposed to find it funny or unexpected than this was the music of choice for a besuited, midle-aged, white man... i.e. someone who was pretty much the very personification of the sort of folk still listening to that. Painful, 'down with the kids' stuff written by someone who was very much not down with the kids.

It's always better when these shoe-horns at least have a tiny bit of thought to them - e.g. when Commander O'Brien was into "ancient" Earth "folk songs", like Louie Louie. As for 'Born to be Wild', was that ever anything other than the kind of fauxrallying cry some Don Draper or other used to delude the masses?

 

[LizzieMaine]

This trope is all over boomer-dominated TNG-era Trek -- in DS9, Bashir has his fixation on 60s-era James Bond/Rat Pack stuff, in Voyager, Paris is a 60s car geek, etc. Aren't there any swing-dancing jitterbug hepcat types in the 24th Century?

Just once I'd like to see a Trek character who's fixated on the pop culture of the Kirk-era 23rd century, just to give a sense that such culture didn't freeze for all time in Boomerland.

 

[Trenchfriend]

Both trailer are on my european DVD.
I like the short trailer very much, but was the picture quality really that shoddy in the cinema run, back in 1996??

This remaster on 1080i shows the brilliant picture quality, the old DVD gives on my CRT-TV!!

AND Here!

 

[MissNathalieVintage]

Well put by Frakes, 'Picard the tea-sipping imperialist', and so true, Hahaha.

 

[Edward]

I still believe Sheldon Cooper put it best - "TOS over TNG, but Picard over Kirk."