So trivial, yet it really ticks you off.

[Fading Fast]

Similar changes were noticed in cities which did not adopt "Zero Tolerance" or "Broken Windows" policies, but simply got the officers out of the cars and in on the streets. The studies which initially supported the "Broken Windows" policy have been, with further research, found to be problematic. There are indications, no completed clear studies, but strong indications, that police engagement in the community, with foot patrols, neighborhood officers who stay in one place for years at a time, getting to really know (and be known by) the residents, and close attention to neighborhood well-being by the Police force administration seems to show better results than adversarial "stop and frisk" techniques. Such police work is also ultimately found to be more rewarding by the majority of officers, though it is not to the liking of certain personality types who tend to be problematic.

To avoid having this slip into politics as you alluded - I am going to say that I agree there is still open debate (I, like you, have read extensively on this) and that to me it isn't settled. I also learned from this conversation that I conflate to many things under the "broken window" banner; i.e., getting police on the streets, getting them familiar with the community, etc., maybe isn't "broken window" policing (stopping small crimes), but since in NYC, they both happened at the same time, I put them under the same banner but shouldn't. But I would add that "stop and frisk" is, also, only one part of "broken window" policing.

 

[Stearmen]

"Broken Windows" did seem to work remarkably well. So very well, in fact that it even led to similar decreases in crime in jurisdictions which never adopted the policy. There was a massive spike in crime nationwide in the 1970's and early 1980's, and a similarly massive drop in the 1990's. Everywhere. "broken Windows" policy or no. The question is far more complex, it seems.

Actually, there is a simpler explanation for the crime rate in those decades. In the 60s through the 80s, we baby boomers hit our teens an twenties, the largest group in history, then, in the 90s we hit our 30s and 40s. Just look at the age range of most criminals!

 

[vitanola]

Yes, and then there is that interesting lead issue. Correlation does not necessarily imply causation, of course, But note that similar changes in crime rate took place around the world beginning in different years which depended upon when each country abandoned Tetraethyl Lead as a fuel additive.

 

[LizzieMaine]

On the other end of that, note the period in which "juvenile delinquency" first became a major talking point -- the mid-to-late forties, thru the fifties, and into the sixties. These were the years when leaded gasoline was approaching and achieving its peak of market dominance.

 

[sheeplady]

Being asked to "arrive 15 minutes early to complete paperwork" for a doctor's appointment I have scheduled.

If you would like me to be there at 11:15 rather than 11:30, schedule my appointment for a different time. Don't surprise me with the fact you expect me there 15 minutes earlier when your robot calls me to remind me of my appointment.

 

[dh66]

Being asked to "arrive 15 minutes early to complete paperwork" for a doctor's appointment I have scheduled.

If you would like me to be there at 11:15 rather than 11:30, schedule my appointment for a different time. Don't surprise me with the fact you expect me there 15 minutes earlier when your robot calls me to remind me of my appointment.

And just to rub salt in the cut....they don't call you back until 11:55. [emoji35]

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[sheeplady]

And just to rub salt in the cut....they don't call you back until 11:55. [emoji35]

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if you're lucky.... I once waited 5 hours for an appointment with my surgeon.

In her defense, she was pulled into emergency surgery for another doctor, BUT her office didn't even tell me that until I had been waiting 2 hours... and didn't offer to reschedule (despite me asking to do so) until I'd waited almost 3 hours. At that point, I was like, "I'm seeing this one through."

 

[dh66]

My primary care doc at times seems to me somewhat lackadaisical in his approach to things....but more than makes up for it with the really BIG sign in the waiting room informing patients who have been waiting longer than 15 minutes since checking in to please notify the front desk. There's nine physicians in that practice and if yours is running behind schedule they will by God get you in with another one. I don't think in four years since I've been seeing this guy that I've had an appointment take longer than an hour from the time I walked in the door.

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[Trenchfriend]

People in the old-fashioned, city-central shopping-center, which are walking straight to the moving staircases, stop right in front of it, look dumb in the air and thought, whether using it or not and block all the people behind them.

Go on, freaks!

But, they can't get me angry. I just smile about this curious people.

 

[Edward]

Similar changes were noticed in cities which did not adopt "Zero Tolerance" or "Broken Windows" policies, but simply got the officers out of the cars and in on the streets. The studies which initially supported the "Broken Windows" policy have been, with further research, found to be problematic. There are indications, no completed clear studies, but strong indications, that police engagement in the community, with foot patrols, neighborhood officers who stay in one place for years at a time, getting to really know (and be known by) the residents, and close attention to neighborhood well-being by the Police force administration seems to show better results than adversarial "stop and frisk" techniques. Such police work is also ultimately found to be more rewarding by the majority of officers, though it is not to the liking of certain personality types who tend to be problematic.

There's a lot to be said for the polski knowing the family. I know of rough areas where there are teenage hoods afraid of nothing. Well... nothing if you mean the law, but threatren to tell their grandmother, and.... That sort of thing only works when you know the area and the people.

Being asked to "arrive 15 minutes early to complete paperwork" for a doctor's appointment I have scheduled.

If you would like me to be there at 11:15 rather than 11:30, schedule my appointment for a different time. Don't surprise me with the fact you expect me there 15 minutes earlier when your robot calls me to remind me of my appointment.

I firmly believe it's a rus to make sure people show up on time for the actual appointment itself. A bit like I grew up with my dad telling my mother we needed to leave the house half an hour earlier than we actually did. Most of the time we made it on time...

 

[sheeplady]

I firmly believe it's a rus to make sure people show up on time for the actual appointment itself. A bit like I grew up with my dad telling my mother we needed to leave the house half an hour earlier than we actually did. Most of the time we made it on time...

I have to admit, when I hear the "15-minutes before your appointment" spiel I am tempted to be 15 minutes late, or even as late as when they normally take me back... which is normally much later. I told my surgeon's office..." the day I wait less 15 minutes or less in your office to be taken back is the day I'll start coming 15 minutes early..."

Hasn't happened yet.

 

[Zombie_61]

...I firmly believe it's a ruse to make sure people show up on time for the actual appointment itself...

That's exactly what it is. Any number of issues can put them behind schedule on their own; they don't need late-arriving patients to add to the problem.

My previous physical medicine doctor was notorious for falling behind schedule daily because he liked to chat with his patients after he'd completed whatever examination was required. Mornings aren't particularly good for me because of my back problems, so I'd always schedule afternoon appointments. Of course, by noon this doctor had already fallen irreparably far behind, so the amount of time I'd spend waiting for my afternoon appointment was anybody's guess. I got used to this pretty quickly, and didn't really mind because he was a good guy and knew his stuff. But the second-to-last time I saw him before he retired, I waited 90 minutes past my scheduled appointment time before the nurse called me back just to take my temperature and blood pressure, another 30 minutes before I was escorted into the exam room, and another 15 minutes before the doctor walked in. Now, 2 hours and 15 minutes doesn't compare to the 5 hours that Sheeplady waited for her appointment, but I think that was a new record even for this doctor. And all of his patients that had appointments after mine on that day had already arrived, waited, and left after rescheduling.

And then I got to make the 22 mile drive home in rush hour traffic.

 

[Edward]

I don't mind it so much, but my local place seems quite good at sticking to time. I suppose it at least gives them time to work with if they have a sense before your appointment if you're a no-show (in my local surgery, we have to check in on arrival).

 

[KILO NOVEMBER]

I remember a doctor visit years ago. I think I was there about an hour or so after the appointed time. I had to take off work to be there. My time is valuable to me, too.

When the doc finally walked into the waiting room, I remember saying, "Doctor! I'm glad the rumors weren't true!" "Rumors?", he replied. I said, "Yes, the rumors that you had joined the Foreign Legion!"

 

[LizzieMaine]

I have to drive two hours to get to my doctor, so I make a point of allowing at least fifteen minutes lag time on the trip up to compensate for traffic. He knows I have a long drive up and a long drive home, so he makes a point of being prompt and getting the exam done fast. It usually takes less than twenty minutes for a routine visit and then I'm on the road again. This is especially appreciated if I've had to fast before the exam. I don't like fasting. At all.

 

[GHT]

I have to drive two hours to get to my doctor, so I make a point of allowing at least fifteen minutes lag time on the trip up to compensate for traffic.

Since the move from London, I've discovered, to my cost, that catching the train when my wife and I visit friends, family or a social outing, it's wiser to catch an earlier one and have time on your hands than to leave it to the timetable. It's not that the train is ridiculously late, but if a driver goes sick, there doesn't seem to be any sort of back up. The train company, when they can, will give a bus company a call to see if they can lay on a fleet of coaches, but who would have such a fleet hanging around waiting for the call?
Our train companies are not liable for any subsequent loss for appointments missed or delayed. They only have to reimburse you if you can't travel because the train didn't run. That said, I think there is some sort of remuneration for persistent lateness. Train companies seem to go to great pains to sound helpful when there is a cancellation, but they could do with revising their terminology, along with that synthesised, digitised, microwaved voice:
"We regret to announce that the ten thirty two, to London Waterloo has been cancelled. We do hope that this hasn't delayed your journey."
Not delayed the journey? Brought on an attack of Tourettes more like!

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

Filming something with your phone camera, such as a train for example, and the person you're with keeps talking to you forcing you to keep conversing with them and now both of your voices are on the video.

 

[swanson_eyes]

What ticks me off: internet arguments. I just posed a question on another board about a possible home remedy. I simply asked if anyone had tried it. The one response I got was basically "Why would you want to do that??" Did she not read my post? I explained in the first sentence--and all the subsequent ones, in fact--why I was considering it. I could not have been more plain about my reasons for asking. If she didn't have an experience to relate or advice, why did she bother answering at all? I feel like she just wants to criticize someone for the sake of feeling superior.

 

[Trenchfriend]

What ticks me off: internet arguments. I just posed a question on another board about a possible home remedy. I simply asked if anyone had tried it. The one response I got was basically "Why would you want to do that??" Did she not read my post? I explained in the first sentence--and all the subsequent ones, in fact--why I was considering it. I could not have been more plain about my reasons for asking. If she didn't have an experience to relate or advice, why did she bother answering at all? I feel like she just wants to criticize someone for the sake of feeling superior.

Histrionics on the internet. Energy-vampires.

 

[2jakes]

[QUOTE="swanson_eyes, post: 2061267, member: 35773”]....If she didn't have an experience to relate or advice, why did she bother answering at all? I feel like she just wants to criticize someone for the sake of feeling superior.[/QUOTE]

The internet acts like a kind of digital-fueled alcohol,
freeing folks to say things to strangers that they would
never dare say face to face.
Although you feel you have explained the reasons for your question,
people will interpret what you wrote from their own experiences or
how they see things which may differ from yours.

If her intent was to criticize for the sake of feeling superior.
Then I feel sorry for her.
She probably doesn’t know how to reply in a manner that respects
your question & answer you with her point of view.

But then perhaps, that being in fact her "point of view”.
Although I may not agree, I will respect it & move on.