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So a lady called me a Pimp today....

Edward

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I wouldn't get bent out of shape over the use of that specific word. A lot of people nowadays simply don't think of the original meaning of the word, thinking more of "pimp" in the sense of "Pimp my Ride". I can't say without having been there, but it could have been a clumsy attempt at a compliment - in the same way as often get told I look "like a gangster" when in a fedora and suit. Which doesn't offend me (much better that than a cowboy comment). Some here take offence at that due to the connotations of organised crime, but really in my experience 99% of the time when people say "pimp" or "gangster" or "1920s" or "Charlie Chaplain" (yes, really.... in a thirties style jacket and trousers ensemble, with a four in hand tie and wearing a white eight panel cap....) or "Poirot" or "cowboy" or whatever.... 99% of the time, it's intended as a compliment. Clumsily worded, maybe, but I find it far more constructive to take it in the spirit in which it is meant than to get defensive over it. The other 1%, well.... file under not worth dignifying with a response. Mind you, sometimes when people try to insult me I like to behave as if it's the most massive compliment ever, just to play with their (inevitably tiny) minds. lol
 
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Most people that make such comments about our hats are probably either being stupid or trying to be a comedian rather than trying to insult.

fedora=pimp or gangster
homburg=gangster (if they knew it was a banker's hat they would probably say one percenter)
cowboy=obviously must be a cowboy
boater=barbershop quartet member
any others?

fedora (brown) = Indiana Jones :doh:
 

Walt

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Since for many people (i.e. the general public) wearing a vintage hat or vintage style hat (especially hats with wide brims) is strange for them I suppose it will for them require comment or if none is made they will think a person wearing such a thing means the wearer is a performer in costume or a historical reinactor or whatever.

Who cares what they say or do as we'll wear our hats with pride! And I bet we'll have the last laugh....
 
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Ok so how many of us have been called a pimp while wearing out favorite fedora out and about? In what world is it ok for a grown woman to call a man a pimp because of his hat? I would like to lie and say it did not bother me but it did.

Obviously she has had a history of bad dealings with her pimp in the past. Her emotional state prompted her to act out as a compassionate man you need to excuse such behavior because we should not hold people to any type of standards or you'll be the one that is predjudicial.:eusa_doh:
 

danofarlington

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In defense of comment-makers, when someone puts on a hat, they often look like a something that has a stereotype, as mentioned earlier in the thread. One of my favorite Borsalinos has a wide brim and low crown, and it evokes the gangster response. But I don't get worried. You select a hat if you think it looks good on you, straight up: If yes, wear it, if no, don't wear it. So even if someone says I look like a gangster, my main concern is "do I think I look good in it." That's the same calculation I'd make with any article of clothing. If I wear jeans and boots and someone says I look like a cowboy, so be it. So I don't take offense at being characterized, and fall back on what I think it looks like. Now if people's comments or looks indicate that the hat just doesn't look good per se, then that's a worry for me. But I try to sort that out before going out in public. Looks good to me? I wear it.
 

Walt

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Late 20s I did just move on just frustrating because usually I get compliments from my fedoras and she just seemed ok with calling me a ho pusher lol

I too have had more "nice hat" comments than the negative or stupid ones. She probably just didn't know that it's called a fedora.
 

Pinesiw

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She clearly did not have any respect for your choice of style, I understand how that can be annoying. Some people just have no idea what a fedora or cap is. the golden era can be portrayed as many things in other peoples eyes.
 
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Her little boy asked if I was a cowboy she said no that is a pimp hat

Huh. And didn't the little guy ask what a "pimp" is?

If I were so unwise as to say such a thing to a kid too young to understand the definition, I just can't imagine how I would answer the question it would likely spark in his little head.

I clearly recall a little guy -- three or four years old, I suppose -- in the company of a young man I assumed to be his father, pointing at me (I was wearing an old Stetson Open Road with a widish brim at the time) and saying "cowboy!" I said something like "Sure am. But I forgot where I left my horse!"
 

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