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anon` said:
Oh, that last one is a corker! What an interesting design; looks to be a minaret. Any labels on it?
anon` said:
thunderw21 said:Snagged this crazy deadstock '30s tie at a Goodwill.
Minaret or palace or both, for sure. There actually aren't any manufacturer's or store labels on the tie, but the scene does have a name screened on the back side of the wide end: "Love Lyric".Widebrim said:Oh, that last one is a corker! What an interesting design; looks to be a minaret. Any labels on it?
thunderw21 said:Snagged this crazy deadstock '30s tie at a Goodwill.
thunderw21 said:Snagged this crazy deadstock '30s tie at a Goodwill.
Feraud said:Your tie has a definite computer font running through it!
Compare the black print in your tie with the font below it.
That's incredible! The tie is definately vintage, and yet the computer font-like character is unmistakable.
Quigley Brown said:Digging through my ties today and pulled out a few autumn color ones
Widebrim said:Feraud said:Your tie has a definite computer font running through it!
Compare the black print in your tie with the font below it.
That's incredible! The tie is definately vintage, and yet the computer font-like character is unmistakable.
Yup. That's pretty odd.
How did they come up with some of these patterns?
Torpedo said:Bump! Pics a few posts above.
Could anyone bring some light to the dating issue? I have searched and have found some threads about Union clothing labels, but none about neckwear-specific ones.
Is there any thread (or a different website) about dating ties by labels, length, material, etc, that I may have missed?
Regards!
Doran said:Hi Torpedo,
Others know far more than I, and you may already know what I am about to say, but I find it easiest to think in terms of oppositions. These are GENERAL oppositions, and plenty of exceptions exist. I have about 30 1930s ties, about 50 1940s/early 1950s ties, and about 30 late 1950s/early 1960s ties, so I can tell you what I observe.
1.) First, 1930s VERSUS 1940s/early 1950s:
a.) Generally, 1930s are narrower and a bit shorter. Their motif is often more subdued than 1940s/early 1950s. One will more often see a fabric with a visible weave. The small end is more exaggeratedly swollen than on an 1940s/early 1950s tie. Altogether, often more humble than the next category:
b.) 1940s/early 1950s, particularly the Bold Look ties, are wider and longer than 1930s, have a flashier and often weirder pattern. They are often much shinier and do not have a visible weave.
Both are very "tie-shaped," not long and slender like late 1950s/early 1960s ties.
2.) Next, what happens in the late 1950s/early 1960s:
Ties seem to have narrowed down in the late 1950s until they became quite narrow in the early 1960s, the pinnacle of this trend being a tie that was only a little over an inch wide. They are somewhat longer than 1940s/early 1950s and considerably longer than 1930s ties. I believe that patterns become less weird in the late 1950s, more regular, and often downright subdued around I guess 1960-1.
Ties become wider in the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s, then narrow again in the Reagan 1980s with New Wave.
The book "Fit to be Tied" is wonderful and worth buying. You can probably find it online. I paid $20 for it, and it was hardcover and a very useful resource. It covers the 1940s/early 1950s sub-styles.
(This is the best I can do, since no one else was answering the question ... if James Powers or Baron Kurz or whoever wishes to add or modify, please do.)
anon` said:Picked up today. The red/black tie is made of... accordion fabric? and sports an NRA label:
thunderw21 said:Yup. That's pretty odd.
How did they come up with some of these patterns?
Torpedo said:This one I wore today... a Native Indian manufacture:
Doran said:Hi Torpedo,
Glad you found the explanation helpful. As for this tie:
Very nice, and I also have some ties with the unraveled "fuzzy" bottom edge. Perhaps someone can comment on those kinds of unraveled bottom edges. Is this a 1930s tie? Is the edge supposed to be unraveled like that? Is it like that because the bottom of the tie was not normally seen since a jacket or vest covered it?
Doran said:Hi Torpedo,
Glad you found the explanation helpful. As for this tie:
Very nice, and I also have some ties with the unraveled "fuzzy" bottom edge. Perhaps someone can comment on those kinds of unraveled bottom edges. Is this a 1930s tie? Is the edge supposed to be unraveled like that? Is it like that because the bottom of the tie was not normally seen since a jacket or vest covered it?