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LaMedicine

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Could be any date, that type of pin has been around for ages--and by that, I mean as far as my memory goes back, my Mom used them, my Granny used them, don't know if you can date it as far back as pre WWII, but you get the idea :) If you really want to date them, the best thing to do is to date the box they were in--how old the paper is.
So, it could be 40s (but not immediately before/during/immediatly after WWII, since material for glass and metal would have been short and expensive), '50s,'60s, '70s, it's your call, and you can get away with it lol.
The thing is, the kind of metal-head pin used in the US is not used for sewing here, they were used maily for pinning clothes that are folded closed and placed in plastic bags as merchandise, and since these are now pinned with plastic pinches (or whatever they are called) I don't think I've seen metal-head pins here in a long while.
 

Lady Day

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LaMedicine said:
If you really want to date them, the best thing to do is to date the box they were in--how old the paper is.

I figured the pins were very common, I was going by the box (chipboard bound with paper tape), the fonts, and the stamping on the box. The '1197' seems to be written with a fine tip pen.

My main thought process was, "When would something like this have been readily exported? Suits still being made, but perhaps these (the pins) were cheap to make..."

They probably could be earlier (Id never thought anywhere near the 40s) but I tend to date conservatively. Thank you for the information. It does help me put much into perspective :)

LD
 

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shiny purple gloves

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A little bit too big for me, but very elegant. Purple and shiny with a cute button. I bought them for 3 euros in a small antiques shop. I do not know how old they are.
 

LaMedicine

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Lady Day said:
The '1197' seems to be written with a fine tip pen.

My main thought process was, "When would something like this have been readily exported? Suits still being made, but perhaps these (the pins) were cheap to make..."
As far as exporting goes, Japan was a source of inexpensive products to the US for a long time , pre and post WWII. I'd say, considering the effect of WWII on the industries in Japan, and the timing of the subsquent development of Japanese industry into a very strong competitive power of more complicated products, exports of such items may have started (revived, maybe) in the very late '40s to early '50s and on to the '70s to '80s and maybe more recent, until the value of the yen to the dollar rose drastically, and the developing countries such as China started mass production and exporting.

Are the numbers written with felt tip pens? Also, next to the number, something has been erased in black. Does that look like felt tip pens, too? If so, felt tip pens first debuted in the Japanese market in 1953, but apparently, it didn't gain popularity until 1957, and narrow tip pens debuted in 1963.
 

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LaMedicine said:
Are the numbers written with felt tip pens? Also, next to the number, something has been erased in black. Does that look like felt tip pens, too? If so, felt tip pens first debuted in the Japanese market in 1953, but apparently, it didn't gain popularity until 1957, and narrow tip pens debuted in 1963.

RAD! This is what Im talking about, solving the mystery! :D Love doing this stuff!
Actually the markings appear to be both. The number appears to be done in ball point, but the scratch out seems to be in felt tip. But all of this could have been done after export, or years after that.
I assume that these are simply an exported commodity, and no real significance to country of origin other than manufacture location. Like so much else around the world :)

LD
 

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Miss Molly said:
Dutchess, are you still in Bruges? If so, there is the most incredible shop there! It's called the Old Curiosity Shoppe, and it's run by an old man who's obviously hoarded things all his life and the shop is piled high with all things papery and antique. It's absolutely amazing. Vintage postcards, photographs, letters, albums, trading cards... It's a treasure trove! It's so full you can hardly move! I highly recommend that shop, purely for the experience :)

I don't live in Bruges, but it is not so far :) would you mind to share the address?

LaMedicine said:
and on to the '70s to '80s and maybe more recent, until the value of the yen to the dollar rose drastically, and the developing countries such as China started mass production and exporting.
In Europe you can still buy Japanese glass head pins :) they are way sharper and finer than the Chinese.
 

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Medvssa, I have found the adress on the internet:
The Old Curiosity Shop
Walstraat 8
8000 Brugge
Hoofd: 050 34 35 91
Fax: 050 34 35 91
Mobiel: 0497 53 94 27

The Langestraat has several nice vintage shops as well.
 

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Forgive me loungers, for I have sinned...against my bank account!

Ooooooh I'm naughty.

Hats from etsy:
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Pretty slip. Could somebody please help me date it? I was thinking '40s?

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Annnd I bought my very first girdle..Girdlebound.com are having a wee sale so this was only $24. I'm not sure if it's OK to post pictures of underwear in this thread so I'll just say that it's a black open bottom by Custom Maid. yeah I know that a slip is underwear but i dunno, a girdle with a bum in it is a mite more provocative. Haha.
 

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cecil said:
Annnd I bought my very first girdle..Girdlebound.com are having a wee sale so this was only $24. I'm not sure if it's OK to post pictures of underwear in this thread so I'll just say that it's a black open bottom by Custom Maid. yeah I know that a slip is underwear but i dunno, a girdle with a bum in it is a mite more provocative. Haha.

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Those of us that like to be able to look at this thread while at work, thank you profusely for not posting the picture.

:D
 

Lady Day

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SayCici said:
Hahaha, I think I need everyone to share how big their stashes are so I feel a little less guilty!

Thats like showing your undies! :rolleyes:

Ive quelshed my fabric hoarding by only buying fabric if I see it and its magically made up into a pattern I have.

Strange, I know. :p

LD
 

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Miss Neecerie said:
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Those of us that like to be able to look at this thread while at work, thank you profusely for not posting the picture.

:D

Haha! I'm actually at work and bought the girdle from my office computer...very stealthily. lol
 

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