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[ValEag]

ValEag...nice Mak. I have always loved the Mak...wonderful pistols. Had two Bulgarians slip thru my fingers. regretted it ever since. Ah, the folly of youth...


Pete

PistolPete - I know what you mean. I wish I had bought a couple more of them when they were still plentiful and relatively cheap. Surprisingly accurate little pistols too.

 

[Story]

1915 Mk VI Webley uncut in .455, riding in what I'm told is an ostrich skin (but unmarked) shoulder rig.

 

[Mr. Clark]

1915 Mk VI Webley uncut in .455, riding in what I'm told is an ostrich skin (but unmarked) shoulder rig.

Nice Webley. Are the Ivory stocks real? I wish my Mk VI wasn't cut for half-moons.

 

[Story]

Nice Webley. Are the Ivory stocks real? I wish my Mk VI wasn't cut for half-moons.

1. Very good fakes.
2. Email the guy running APEX, he sells a barrel/cylinder combo and will probably sell you a complete cylinder assembly (although it's unlisted)
https://www.apexgunparts.com/index.php/cPath/28_59

I'm in the market for a cylinder cut for .45ACP, folks.

 

[Opas Coat]

Anyone know where I can find a reproduction of a Luger or Mauser like these? Particularly with the stock attachment.

Photos from the old state penitentiary in Boise Idaho in the military exhibit.

 

[warbird]

Anyone know where I can find a reproduction of a Luger or Mauser like these? Particularly with the stock attachment.

Photos from the old state penitentiary in Boise Idaho in the military exhibit.

Gun show. Auction. Two best places. Though I don't know the laws up there regarding buying something in the states and taking it or having it shipped there.

 

[Doublegun]

Importing a semi-automatic handgun into Canada? Good luck on that.lol

 

[Story]

Anyone know where I can find a reproduction of a Luger or Mauser like these? Particularly with the stock attachment.

Other than some low-quality Stoegers, I can't think of a reproduction Luger or Mauser Broomhandle.

Originals in Canada are RESTRICTED category weapons and pricey.

http://www.marstar.ca/gf-usedguns/index.shtm

Mauser C-96 Broomhandle w. stock holster (all matching)
Early small ring hammer transitional model with matching serial numbers and wood stock holster. Action is tight and crisp. Stock is cracked but repaired (a common issue due to shrinking of the wood with age). Fair bore.
Tag #: RP005 Condition: Good Status: available $1,800.00

MAUSER BROOMHANDLE
Model of 1896 (Made in 1910) Early Transitional Small Ring Hammer, Caliber is 7.63mm, Bore is fair, Overall G-VG, ALL MATCHING With Shoulder stock, matches pistol, Very small cracks, top of stock very common, cause by shrinkage (age). (Picture#2)
Tag #: RP077 Condition: G-VG Status: sold $3,000.00

Also bookmark
http://www.denner.ca/

 

[Opas Coat]

I have been looking in to getting my restricted in the next year or so, just what kind of hand gun to get with it. Any one of those or even a .45 revolver with a stock attachment would be a dream.

 

[Mr. Clark]

There's no one manufacturing Artillery Lugers or C-96's. With the machine work involved they would be very expensive. A shooter-grade Arty Luger can be had for around $1500. Expect to pay the same for the snail drum. A repro stock and rig runs about $150. I'm collecting Artillery parts to build a blanked one for re-enacting. I scored a repro barrel assembly for just under $300 and I just need a spare barrel extension to put it all together.

A re-enactor friend in Tallahassee just listed his C-96 online for $1000, which is about going price for a shooter-grade piece. It comes with the stock and a spare 9mm upper for blank-firing. I can get a number if anyone is interested.

Luger's are one of my favorite German handguns. Lugers just have that look about them that just screams, "I'm a precision German-engineered instrument and I'm world famous." Pull a Luger at a living history and everyone immediately knows what it is.

 

[Opas Coat]

That and a P38. I guess I just like how the barrel sticks out past the upper receiver.

Last year while carrying my drilling deer hunting I had a close encounter with a moose... I had my rifle loaded with the two .12 ga for partridge and one .3006 that would take WAY too long to re load should I need to. Its not that I think the pistol would do me allot of good after a failed .3006 but it would be more of a deterrent than some bird shot. Especially when it comes down to bears.

 

[carebear]

I've seen pictures in the local paper of bear and moose taken down with 9mm and .40 caliber handguns, but it was typically cops who couldn't get to their shotgun in time. For a field handgun I want something with a heavier bullet and more penetration than 9mm or .30 Luger, especially if I only have 8-10 shots of either.

Though it would definitely beat harsh language and a pointy stick.

A Smith N-frame in .44 or even a hot .357 solid would be "vintage-y" in appearance but a bit more woods practical. Though either way it's an extra couple pounds to carry when you've already got a long gun in hand. I still go back and forth on carrying a back-up pistol in the woods, usually after a publicized mauling. [huh]

 

[Doublegun]

Brown bears or black bears? BIG difference. The fishing guides that I know in AK carry 12 ga shotguns with extended tubes. First couple of rounds are bird shot intended to scare or sting a bear but the rest are copper slugs. If you are going to carry a handgun for bears I think most "experts" will tell you to carry a 45 Long Colt, .357 Mag or .44 Mag revolver (mine is a S&W 629 with a 3" barrel and Hogue rubber grips). There are a lot of reasons to stay away from a semi-auto, especially one in 9mm.

 

[Story]

Last year while carrying my drilling deer hunting I had a close encounter with a moose... I had my rifle loaded with the two .12 ga for partridge and one .3006 that would take WAY too long to re load should I need to. Its not that I think the pistol would do me allot of good after a failed .3006 but it would be more of a deterrent than some bird shot. Especially when it comes down to bears.

1. *coffcoff* Have you posted pics of your drilling?

2. A 220 grain .30 projectile should do the job on bear or moose. None of the pistols you've mentioned are going to cut the mustard, compared to even a 150 grain deer load in the .30-06.

 

[jamespowers]

1. *coffcoff* Have you posted pics of your drilling?

2. A 220 grain .30 projectile should do the job on bear or moose. None of the pistols you've mentioned are going to cut the mustard, compared to even a 150 grain deer load in the .30-06.

The 460 Weatherby should handle anything that comes your way---anything.

 

[John in Covina]

Hopefully this isn't too over the top but:

There is the idea of "use enough gun" but a good portion of game is regularly taken with carbines that use pistol loads like in lever action Winchesters and Marlins.

The shot placement of course is key, don't know if it's true but they say you can take down an elephant with a 22 rifle, but it has to be close and perfectly aimed.

 

[jamespowers]

The shot placement of course is key, don't know if it's true but they say you can take down an elephant with a 22 rifle, but it has to be close and perfectly aimed.

If you are trying to take down an elephant, you want to be as far away as possible. A wounded elephant can do a whole lot of damage to a puny human. I don't think you can aim that well trembling.
The last humans to take down elephants (wooly mammoths) from close range were cavemen with spears. Even then they had the good sense to use an atlatl or spear thrower that gave them a range up to 300 feet. Even then some didn't quite make it. :eusa_doh:

 

[Mr. Clark]

Hopefully this isn't too over the top but:

There is the idea of "use enough gun" but a good portion of game is regularly taken with carbines that use pistol loads like in lever action Winchesters and Marlins.

The shot placement of course is key, don't know if it's true but they say you can take down an elephant with a 22 rifle, but it has to be close and perfectly aimed.

I remember reading a story about that very subject. I don't recall which nation, I think it was Rhodesia, where a farmer had an elephant in his garden and he fired a .22 at it hoping to scare it away. Instead, in a freak one in a million shot, he managed to accidently shoot the beast in the ear which penetrated enough to produce a brain shot, dropping it instantly stone dead. Now he had a dead 10 ton animal in his garden and had to explain to the wildlife officials why he was "bothering" the elephants. He not only had to pay a fine for shooting the beast, he also had to pay for removal of the carcass, which was done piece by piece.

 

[anon`]

Shot placement is indeed key. WDM Bell claimed to have killed over a thousand elephants in the first thirty years or so of the 20th century using a custom rifle chambered in--ready for this?--Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6.5x54. That's not much larger than .22, though of course there's an awful lot more powder behind it.

Point is, there's more to killing game than just "bringing enough gun." I seriously doubt, however, that Mr Bell would've advocated the use of this round at close range, or in defense of oneself after inadvertently stumbling onto something big and pissed off!

 

[warbird]

Shot placement is indeed key. WDM Bell claimed to have killed over a thousand elephants in the first thirty years or so of the 20th century using a custom rifle chambered in--ready for this?--Mannlicher-Schoenauer 6.5x54. That's not much larger than .22, though of course there's an awful lot more powder behind it.

Point is, there's more to killing game than just "bringing enough gun." I seriously doubt, however, that Mr Bell would've advocated the use of this round at close range, or in defense of oneself after inadvertently stumbling onto something big and pissed off!

He and his stories have unfortunately been the end of a lot of hunters. They read of this hunter taking elephants with essentially a 270. He may have, but he was an exceptional shot in the worst possible scenarios. He was extra ordinary, meaning most even active hunters fell far below his standards. It isn't all about shot placement, though much of it is with shooting anything. Cartridge has a tremendous amount to do with it as well. I take enough to shoot whatever I am planning to shoot. I can shoot better than 99.9% of the people out there. I wouldn't take a 270 to an elephant hunt. Most of those elephants were killed at very few yards. Any more distance and the bullet would simply bounce off.

And you don't hunt elephants from a long distance, no matter the caliber. Elephants are hunted from 50 yards or less generally. That is why they are among the most dangerous of the dangerous game. I wouldn't hunt an elephant with less than a 416 and that would only be in a have to situation. My 416 rem is fine for any other dangerous game, but if I did hunt elephants it would be with my 470.

I err on the side of caution. Many things will kill an animal, but that doesn't mean they die easily and quickly. I have no use for suffering. The fact may be that some deer are taken with pistol calibers through rifles, but I wouldn't shoot a deer with less than a 30-30, and I do not own one of those. More deer are taken with a 30-30 than anything else.

Don't be fooled folks by grand stories by certain writers or by people on hunting bb's. Most of them are full of you know what and most have never hunted anything dangerous in their life. They will talk ad nauseum of what will kill this or that and that placement is the key. BS.......... I want some margin of error. People can say whatever they want about what they would do and that they can do this or that with their rifle. Until they have a cape buffalo, a cat, a rhino, an elephant, a brown bear, a hippo charging them and they make the shot I have no use for their blathering. Once they do that they have my respect. I have seen the biggest braggarts reduced to soggy pants by a charging feral hog.

If you are going to hunt do not chance it, take what will kill and kill cleanly and what will penetrate and give a bit of a margin for error.