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[1961MJS]

Since most concealed carry is with an IWB (inside WaistBand) holster, I fail to see the advantage of a shortened 1911; the barrel, all five inches of it, is tucked inside your trousers while the grip rides above the waistband. Since what is being concealed by a jacket or shirt is the grip, not the barrel, I would think that the longer barrel, which provides a better sight radius as well as increased velocity-- important if one is relying on light weight, expanding bullets-- would be a better choice than an extremely short barrel.

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It took me a year or two to work it out also. A 4 inch barreled 1911 (commander) is for carrying horizontal in a shoulder holster. I have a big enough chest and gut that I can hide a government model. I would prefer to carry them vertically though in which case it won't matter.

Later

 

[amador]

I missed saying that it has a 6 rd magazine. I got used to carrying at Stage 3 while in the Army so that the capacity is 6. If you carry at Stage 1 then you would have 7 rds.

 

[Kirk H.]

The old saying "No gun too small to carry, or too big to shoot" is the reason for those. If you carry regularly, you know that while the 5"1911 or 4" S&W K frame revolver is great to shoot and can be carried with heavier jackets to conceal them, they are a pain. That's why J frame snubbies, small frame pocket guns are so popular. My "always gun" is a little Keltec PF9 that slides into a pocket easily.

+1 on that.

 

[jkingrph]

Some pictures of my 1873 Vetterli. The large portion at the rear of the bolt houses the mainspring. I have read that if it breaks the valve spring from some of the old air cooled Volkswagon engines is a suitable replacement. The locking lugs are at the rear of the bolt, just in front of the mainspring and cocking cam.

This action cocks on opening. The first Mausers cocked on closing, so it looks like the Swiss were a few years ahead of the modern Mauser types.

 

[Rathdown]

The old saying "No gun too small to carry, or too big to shoot" is the reason for those. If you carry regularly, you know that while the 5"1911 or 4" S&W K frame revolver is great to shoot and can be carried with heavier jackets to conceal them, they are a pain. That's why J frame snubbies, small frame pocket guns are so popular. My "always gun" is a little Keltec PF9 that slides into a pocket easily.

Actually, I do carry regularly and have lugged a Commander since my days as an editor at G&A back in the '70s. The point I was making is that with an inside the waistband carry, there is no point in sacrificing bullet performance (which is dependent upon velocity) by reducing barrel length by 40%.

 

[DeaconKC]

R'down, I see what you mean now. I have carried a Commander before with a Bianchi IWB holster, so we both understand the appeal of guns that are easier to carry.

And JKing, that Vetterli is fine!

 

[KilroyCD]

Yesterday the Remington 513T .22 milsurp training rifle I ordered from the CMP on 3 October arrived, and it's everything I wanted...except for the stock. I'll get to that in a moment. It's a wartime example, June 1942 (if I'm not mistaken) with a parkerized finish. The bore is excellent and the bolt is as smooth as butter. The serial number is 23546, and it's marked "US Property" on both the barrel and receiver.
However, the stock was altered a bit. Someone had sanded the down the comb, now making the buttstock look like a tail fin from a 1957 DeSoto. They also sanded the stock down a bit all over so the cartouches are very faint.
Once I put the rear sight on I realized the comb is a bit too low now for me, so I've ordered a new stock from Numrich Arms / Gun Parts Corp.
All in all though, I'm quite pleased with what I received.

 

[DeaconKC]

Gotta love the CMP. Great folks there.

 

[Oldsarge]

It looks like someone tried to turn it into a dedicated prone rifle. Bit of a pain, that.

 

[KilroyCD]

It looks like someone tried to turn it into a dedicated prone rifle. Bit of a pain, that.

My thoughts exactly. I plan to take the rifle to the range today to shoot it as is. The new stock should be here on Monday.

 

[KilroyCD]

513T Range report

I took the 513T to the range today and shot a few targets at 25 yards. The aperture that came with the rear sight is better suited for hunting, but I do have a target aperture on order for this sight. Nevertheless, I was pretty satisifed with the results.
This is a five-shot group at 25 yards:

 

[Giftmacher]

Counts this as a weapon?

 

[MikePotts]

Counts this as a weapon?

..........maybe in Massachussets

 

[Oldsarge]

or Chicago . . .

 

[Giftmacher]

In fact in Czech Republic too, but this lump of rust is dangerous only if you throw it
to someone's head and even most policemen knows it

 

[AtomicEraTom]

:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap

..........maybe in Massachussets

or Chicago . . .

 

[Giftmacher]

:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap

What's so special about it? .-))

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

Counts this as a weapon?

Soviet/Russian M1895 Nagant revolver???

For comparison

 

[Giftmacher]

I don't think so V.C. It is too small, it seems rather to civilian gun, caliber 6.35 (some kind of British Bulldog maybe). For comparison with cartridge 7.65 x17:

 

[Kirk H.]

Originally Posted by MikePotts
..........maybe in Massachussets
Originally Posted by Oldsarge
or Chicago . . .

or a Brady Gun....just saying....