SamMarlowPI
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i'm not like 100% familiar with all this stuff which is why i gather as much information as possible...i've heard 00, #1, #4, #6bird...so i guess it all comes down to the person...
**********SamMarlowPI said:btw- ever heard of the "tactical reload" or "shell dump" or whatever where you open the ejection port, grab a shell, reach underneath, drop the shell in and the rack the pump foreward?
carebear said:The Mossberg shotguns have aluminum receivers. For any normal usage they will stand up as well as a steel receivered shotgun. I use a Mossy 500 for my HD shotgun.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the 1300 or its receiver.
Remember, shotgun shells, especially non-magnums, are low pressure and by design the receiver is not really taking any of it anyway.
If it helps, I find the Federal 8-pellet Tactical (low recoil) 00 Buck patterns very well. It will do the job. Magnums are a case of "more is less" when it comes to combat shooting, save them for the ducks.
SamMarlowPI said:ok...so would it make sense that my uncle mentioned the steel frames over the alloy because the steel can take a bit more beating like a cop having to drop his gun or handling it kind of rough...? basically it can withstand harsh punishment more so than the alloy? i dunno why he would bring up the steel/alloy argument unless he was talking about actual physical punishment the gun would endure therefore choosing steel over alloy...i hope that jumble makes sense...:eusa_doh:
SamMarlowPI said:i know how a pump works, so one would only do the "port load" if the gun was empty...i guess it would be used only in a dire situation where, like you said, "load one, shoot one"...i guess it could also be used in conjunction with and prior to loading the magazine with an empty gun...port load and then load the mag...i dunno...maybe its just showing off if one uses it everytime they load but...whatever...anyway, i also noticed the 870 has one less shot capacity than the 1300, making it 6+1 vs. 7+1...not a huge difference but could be if the situation calls for that one extra shell...[huh]
but thanks guys, gives me some more to think about...
carebear said:Enough heavy magnum loads and that adds up to a lot of energy going backwards. I have heard of frames starting to get cracks around pin holes and such.
Again, not a big deal for anyone not shooting it all day every day.
SamMarlowPI said:don't really need magnum loads unless hunting, correct?
yah i wouldn't plan on all day, everyday...i would like to practice quite a bit(maybe a couple times a week for a few hours until i get used to it and then not that often) and regular bird and buckshot loads would be the main ammo...
Are you talking about the new round that has brought the shotgun back into use for law enforcement? I shot that round into a car (training) from a distance of about 20-25 yards and it held a nice tight pattern as well as good penetration through door into driver seat.carebear said:The "Tactical" or reduced-recoil loadings, made by most manufacturers, are actually better choices for self-defense (mostly due to patterning) and will be easier on the gun and your shoulder.
indycop said:Are you talking about the new round that has brought the shotgun back into use for law enforcement? I shot that round into a car (training) from a distance of about 20-25 yards and it held a nice tight pattern as well as good penetration through door into driver seat.
Including the 1740? (It's just Siamese-twinned left-and-right 870's, you oughtta love it.)lolDeaconKC said:All the shotguns mentioned here are great choices.